Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Are you too heavy for my stick?

[Jim's Email (jimshadow]

Clyde,

I believe that you are now required to type everything in Haiku
form....Please try again.
:)
JIM
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "clyde" <clyderomero [at] mycingular.blackberry.net>
To: "JIM" <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are you too heavy for my stick?


> You guys are missing it
> Brian doesn't know shit
> He sells used cars!
> Come on now guys
>
>
> Clyde
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Hans E. Hansen" <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:26:27
> To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are you too heavy for my stick?
>
> Heavy sedan w/manual (ONLY!!!) > Cadillac CTS/V.
>
> Manual not working in a big car is total and complete
> bullshit.  But the marketing realities are such that this
> combo doesn't appear often.  Sigh.
>
> Hans.
>
> On 9/28/06, Brian E. Buxton <BrianBuxton [at] buxtonmotorsports.com> wrote:
> > Dennis Liu wrote:
> >
> > ><<Brian, you wrote, "the cars are too heavy for a manual".  Dave Craig
and I took that to mean you were saying that a manual transmission could not
> > >handle a car that heavy.  That is clearly not true, because (a) lots of
manual transmissions are available on heavier vehicles, even luxury ones,
> > >and (b) Mercedes itself offers a manual transmission on an equally
heavy E-class itself.>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Dennis,
> >
> > >I get it now - you guys though I meant that they were literally too
heavy for a manual, when what I didn't express as well as I should have was
that the cars are too heavy and don't drive well with a manual.  BMW does
well with the M5 because (as you pointed out) they do have a following.  But
BMW has historically tried to be sportier and Mercedes more luxurious.
Which is why BMW usually has the younger following while MB has the older
crowd.  So my point was not to argue that you were incorrect in stating that
there was no market demand for the cars, but rather WHY there was no market
demand for the cars.
> > >
> > ><<Ok, so now Brian doesn't mean that, or Dave and I misinterpreted his
> > >statement.  Rather, he meant to say something along the lines of,
"heavy
> > >performance sedans perform better with automatic transmissions than
with
> > >manual transmissions."  >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > ><<Well, I don't agree with that either.>>
> > >
> > >What??
> > >
> > ><<But there is still a market for sports sedans that come with manual
> > >transmissions, and BMW is the king of that market.>>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I feel that BMW's best manual is in the M3.  I have been in a couple of
> > different M5's this year and am not at all impressed with the manual
trans.
> >
> > ><<So, why doesn't MB do it?>>
> > >
> > >Because they would not drive well!!!
> > >
> >
> > =)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > ><<Around here, AMGs are driven by eurotrash girls hanging out on
Newbury street, spending daddy's
> > >money while showing up to class at Boston University every once in
awhile.
> > >(you know, the kind of girls that Lashdeep likes to date)  <grin>>>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hell, those are the girls I like to date!
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
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