Ferrari Mailing List: Re: BMW Mods/Forced Induction/Modern V8s...Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51

[LS (lashdeep]

All highway mpg figures are quoted. 

OHC=modern technology yet modern OHV have less mass, more power and better
efficiency?

Has GM revolutionized the industry?

Should Ferrari, BMW and Merc be ashamed?

LS

--- Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/29/06, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wish you guys were in DC right now...this Mallet Caddie CTS will tow
> a
> > 740 faster than a 750 will run unladen.
> 
> 
> :)
> 
> Interestingly, two recent E39 M5 owners have traded up to stock CTS-Vs
> for
> > more electrical reliability, better fuel economy and cheaper
> > maintenance...all with the same level of performance.
> 
> 
> How is the handling difference between the two?
> 
> 525 RWHP and 20mpg. GM engine mgmt is pretty impressive nowadays. Have
> > modern, alloy V8s rendered forced induction obsolete? Is turbocharging
> the
> > old school method for making an engine both efficient and powerful?
> 
> 
> 20 mpg where?  Highway.......for mixed driving that's too optimistic....
> 
> Z06: 26mpg, 3100lbs, 505bhp
> > S2000: 28mpg, 2850lbs, 240 bhp
> 
> 
> Again.....what kind of driving is this?
> 
> It's hard for me to get 15-16 mpg mixed driving.......highway I can get
> mid
> 20s, even higher at a constant 75-80mph. I can get 30+ at a sustained 50
> mph....
> 
> Granted a corvette is several hundred pounds lighter than my car....but
> 26
> mpg mixed use is hard for me to swallow.
> 
> Mixed use fuel economy = 4 cylinder is stronger
> Highway use fuel economy  = 8 cylinder is stronger
> 
> I guess I'm just whining because I rarely get such nice driving, and
> because
> I'm always punished for enjoying myself.
> 
> Why is an LS1 powered 3rd Gen RX7, lighter, more powerful and more fuel
> > efficient than a twin turbo 13B rotary powered RX7?
> >
> > Was the opening scene of Apocalypse Now really the destruction of the
> > Kurtz compound?
> >
> > Who has answers?
> 
> 
> I guess the gas is greener on the other side of the fence.........I want
> to
> play with a high revving no torque motor ;-)
> 
> FG
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "LtWacko [at] aol.com" <LtWacko [at] aol.com>
> > To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:37:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/29/2006 8:03:11 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> > ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com writes:
> >
> > 5. The  750 V12 has 296 HP. The stock 540i V8 has 282 and my El Tweako
> > factory setup 290: 2% less power than the V12 and way less mass. The
> > V8 likes revs and will imitate a V12 just fine at 3500 - 5500 RPM.
> > Rev limiter is about 5300 in 1st, 6300 after that. I suspect Koala
> > installs the manual EPROMs.
> >
> >
> > HP doesn't tell the whole story.  Power curve baby!  750 will  walk a
> 740
> > all
> > day long from 50 MPH to limiter.  You will actually outdrag  a 750
> with a
> > 740
> > off the line in distance.  To 60 MPH in time is close, but  that is
> > because
> > the 750 is charging hard catching the 740 then blowing by it as  if
> the
> > guy in
> > the 740 threw out an anchor.  Yes, this is based on multiple  ACTUAL
> runs
> > side
> > by side.  No magazine performance comparisons of  numbers.  NO
> barstool
> > racing.  You will feel like a little girl  when you play with the big
> boys
> > at 80MPH
> > plus.  I can't believe how long I  have to wait to get to 130 MPH in
> my
> > 740iL
> > and yes, I do this on a weekly  basis so I need it!  I was
> disappointed
> > from
> > day one.  All I could  afford at the time was a 740 and it had to be a
> > steal
> > at that and the 750  started getting some miles on it and serious
> repair
> > bills.
> > If you can find  a quicker diff cheap and you don't mind the lower HWY
> > MPG,
> > it's well worth the  grin factor.
> >
> > It's like the old S-Class argument between the S420 and the S500.  
> S420
> > owners wish they had the S500 and S500 owners never looked back on
> > the  extra
> > money they spent.
> >
> > Ain't no replacement for displacement!
> >
> > Rodney
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