Ferrari Mailing List: Re: BMW Mods/Forced Induction/Modern V8s...Re: FerrariDigest, Vol 5, Issue 51

[Tom Reynolds (kjtar]

Fellippe,
Honda S2000.
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa, OK
P.S.  To explain a bit, I'd read the articles on line and epinions, etc.
about how the car didn't have enough low end torque.  B.S. Just put your
foot in it and shift.  Dealership had another S2000 and a new-ish GTO
(Monaro) and they did some "test" drags with the two of them.  S2000 won
every time.  Could hold it in gear longer thus dusting the goat.
Nice noises, corners like it's on rails, not bad looking. Only around $18k
maybe for a decent one?
Original Message ----- 
From: "Fellippe Galletta" <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] BMW Mods/Forced Induction/Modern V8s...Re:
FerrariDigest, Vol 5, Issue 51


> On 12/29/06, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wish you guys were in DC right now...this Mallet Caddie CTS will tow a
> > 740 faster than a 750 will run unladen.
>
>
> :)
>
> Interestingly, two recent E39 M5 owners have traded up to stock CTS-Vs for
> > more electrical reliability, better fuel economy and cheaper
> > maintenance...all with the same level of performance.
>
>
> How is the handling difference between the two?
>
> 525 RWHP and 20mpg. GM engine mgmt is pretty impressive nowadays. Have
> > modern, alloy V8s rendered forced induction obsolete? Is turbocharging
the
> > old school method for making an engine both efficient and powerful?
>
>
> 20 mpg where?  Highway.......for mixed driving that's too optimistic....
>
> Z06: 26mpg, 3100lbs, 505bhp
> > S2000: 28mpg, 2850lbs, 240 bhp
>
>
> Again.....what kind of driving is this?
>
> It's hard for me to get 15-16 mpg mixed driving.......highway I can get
mid
> 20s, even higher at a constant 75-80mph. I can get 30+ at a sustained 50
> mph....
>
> Granted a corvette is several hundred pounds lighter than my car....but 26
> mpg mixed use is hard for me to swallow.
>
> Mixed use fuel economy = 4 cylinder is stronger
> Highway use fuel economy  = 8 cylinder is stronger
>
> I guess I'm just whining because I rarely get such nice driving, and
because
> I'm always punished for enjoying myself.
>
> Why is an LS1 powered 3rd Gen RX7, lighter, more powerful and more fuel
> > efficient than a twin turbo 13B rotary powered RX7?
> >
> > Was the opening scene of Apocalypse Now really the destruction of the
> > Kurtz compound?
> >
> > Who has answers?
>
>
> I guess the gas is greener on the other side of the fence.........I want
to
> play with a high revving no torque motor ;-)
>
> FG
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "LtWacko [at] aol.com" <LtWacko [at] aol.com>
> > To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:37:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/29/2006 8:03:11 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> > ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com writes:
> >
> > 5. The  750 V12 has 296 HP. The stock 540i V8 has 282 and my El Tweako
> > factory setup 290: 2% less power than the V12 and way less mass. The
> > V8 likes revs and will imitate a V12 just fine at 3500 - 5500 RPM.
> > Rev limiter is about 5300 in 1st, 6300 after that. I suspect Koala
> > installs the manual EPROMs.
> >
> >
> > HP doesn't tell the whole story.  Power curve baby!  750 will  walk a
740
> > all
> > day long from 50 MPH to limiter.  You will actually outdrag  a 750 with
a
> > 740
> > off the line in distance.  To 60 MPH in time is close, but  that is
> > because
> > the 750 is charging hard catching the 740 then blowing by it as  if the
> > guy in
> > the 740 threw out an anchor.  Yes, this is based on multiple  ACTUAL
runs
> > side
> > by side.  No magazine performance comparisons of  numbers.  NO barstool
> > racing.  You will feel like a little girl  when you play with the big
boys
> > at 80MPH
> > plus.  I can't believe how long I  have to wait to get to 130 MPH in my
> > 740iL
> > and yes, I do this on a weekly  basis so I need it!  I was disappointed
> > from
> > day one.  All I could  afford at the time was a 740 and it had to be a
> > steal
> > at that and the 750  started getting some miles on it and serious repair
> > bills.
> > If you can find  a quicker diff cheap and you don't mind the lower HWY
> > MPG,
> > it's well worth the  grin factor.
> >
> > It's like the old S-Class argument between the S420 and the S500.   S420
> > owners wish they had the S500 and S500 owners never looked back on
> > the  extra
> > money they spent.
> >
> > Ain't no replacement for displacement!
> >
> > Rodney
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