Re: BMW Mods/Forced Induction/Modern V8s...Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol ...
From: Brian E. Buxton (BrianBuxtonBuxtonMotorsports.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:08:12 -0800 (PST)
As many steps forward as US car companies have taken, they are still miles behind the Germans in luxury, ride, handling, driving feel, panel gaps, fit and finish and overall quality of interior bits, leather, carpet, etc. One of my clients bought a new Cadillac XLR-V for right at $100K and I couldn't believe how cheap the interior looked, felt and even smelled. I drove another clients 2007 Cadillac Escalade back to his house after a detail and was equally unimpressed with that interior. But that thing is FAST for a big SUV. Hell, it was fast for a small car! Great exhaust note too.

Brian



LtWacko [at] aol.com wrote:

I whole heartedly agree with American Iron being superior in performance in a straight line. I LOVE the CTS-V and SRT-8's, but luxury is not the same. I couldn't believe it when one of my friends with a CTS-V found the Caddy not luxurious enough! Surprised the heck out of me. I thought they were fine and actually envious. He is looking to trade the car in for an Audi A8L. I guess he doesn't care about reliability. Performance and luxury in one car that is somewhat affordable is not a priority for him. He is going to get another Vette Z (old one replaced with CTS-V) to satisfy the speed need and get a "nicer" luxury car for clients (real estate agent).

In a message dated 12/29/2006 11:02:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, lashdeep [at] yahoo.com writes:

I wish you guys were in DC right now...this Mallet Caddie CTS will tow a 740 faster than a 750 will run unladen.

Interestingly, two recent E39 M5 owners have traded up to stock CTS-Vs for more electrical reliability, better fuel economy and cheaper maintenance...all with the same level of performance.

I thought the CTS-V was faster? I know if they don't handle as well but that's only at the limits which most drivers never reach anyway. BMW M Car and reliability usually can only be used in the same sentence negatively lately.



525 RWHP and 20mpg. GM engine mgmt is pretty impressive nowadays. Have modern, alloy V8s rendered forced induction obsolete? Is turbocharging the old school method for making an engine both efficient and powerful?
No, you can turbocharge the newer motors for even higher levels of performance! Can you say 750 HP plus Caddy?




Z06: 26mpg, 3100lbs, 505bhp
S2000: 28mpg, 2850lbs, 240  bhp

Buddy's stock S2000 spanked my 740iL all over the powerband and I have a quicker than stock gear! I NEED a V12...



Why is an LS1 powered 3rd Gen RX7, lighter, more powerful and more fuel efficient than a twin turbo 13B rotary powered RX7?

Was the opening scene of Apocalypse Now really the destruction of the Kurtz compound?

Who has answers?

Women, but they are too smart to come down to our level (according to my girlfriend)!

Rodney



LS

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----- Original Message ---- From: "LtWacko [at] aol.com" <LtWacko [at] aol.com> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 11:37:00 AM Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51


In a message dated 12/29/2006 8:03:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com writes:


5. The 750 V12 has 296 HP. The stock 540i V8 has 282 and my El Tweako factory setup 290: 2% less power than the V12 and way less mass. The V8 likes revs and will imitate a V12 just fine at 3500 - 5500 RPM. Rev limiter is about 5300 in 1st, 6300 after that. I suspect Koala installs the manual EPROMs.


HP doesn't tell the whole story. Power curve baby! 750 will walk a 740 all day long from 50 MPH to limiter. You will actually outdrag a 750 with a 740 off the line in distance. To 60 MPH in time is close, but that is because the 750 is charging hard catching the 740 then blowing by it as if the guy in the 740 threw out an anchor. Yes, this is based on multiple ACTUAL runs side by side. No magazine performance comparisons of numbers. NO barstool racing. You will feel like a little girl when you play with the big boys at 80MPH plus. I can't believe how long I have to wait to get to 130 MPH in my 740iL and yes, I do this on a weekly basis so I need it! I was disappointed from day one. All I could afford at the time was a 740 and it had to be a steal at that and my 750 started getting some miles on it and serious repair bills. If you can find a quicker diff cheap and you don't mind the lower HWY MPG, it's well worth the grin factor.


It's like the old S-Class argument between the S420 and the S500. S420 owners wish they had the S500 and S500 owners never looked back on the extra money they spent.

Ain't no replacement for displacement!

Rodney
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