| Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Dick Petrick (rtpetrick comcast.net)
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| Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 06:05:41 -0800 (PST) | |
IMHO, things that appear to be too good to be true, generally are. This is a scam and selling scams play on the greed and ignorance of the buyer. As the late, great, W.C.Fields once said: "There is a sucker born every minute." Regards -----Original Message----- From: ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com [mailto:ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:16 AM To: rtpetrick [at] comcast.net Subject: Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 Send Ferrari mailing list submissions to ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/listinfo/ferrari or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com You can reach the person managing the list at ferrari-owner [at] ferrarilist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ferrari digest..." Today's Topics: 1. "Cheap" F40 (Jason Polzer) 2. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Fellippe Galletta) 3. Re: "Cheap" F40 (red5hilser [at] aol.com) 4. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Steve Jenkins) 5. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Ric Rainbolt) 6. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Brian E. Buxton) 7. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Jason Polzer) 8. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Tom Reynolds) 9. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Brian E. Buxton) 10. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Ken Rentiers) 11. Re: "Cheap" F40 (Brian E. Buxton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 11:17:55 -0500 From: Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> Subject: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <45A11D33.9040500 [at] internethosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=350 987 Jason ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:04:38 -0500 From: "Fellippe Galletta" <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <52b5a51a0701070904q45acde89yc4ea7b68da85aa2c [at] mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You're right, that is a cheap F40....even by late '90s standards. My only guess is that it's a race F40 modified for street use based on those rims. If it's clean, definitely a steal. FG On 1/7/07, Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> wrote: > > > http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=350 987 > > Jason > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/fellippe.galletta%40gma il.com > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:12:02 -0500 From: red5hilser [at] aol.com Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com Cc: alexzanardifan [at] hotmail.com, ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com Message-ID: <8C900961579E09B-1634-2CB1 [at] WEBMAIL-MA09.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yea, that's a real cLyDe price all right. If he'll 'loan' me the $210k, I'd be interested! Yer shitbox pal, Ferrari Bubba -----Original Message----- From: fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 You're right, that is a cheap F40....even by late '90s standards. My only guess is that it's a race F40 modified for street use based on those rims. If it's clean, definitely a steal. FG On 1/7/07, Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> wrote: > > > http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=350 987 > > Jason > _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:11:51 -0800 From: "Steve Jenkins" <steve [at] stevejenkins.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: "Ferrari List" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <03b801c7328f$b0c04050$6e01a8c0 [at] maple.jenkins.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That looks to be parked outside Rick Doria's house, and as far as I know, Rick isn't selling his car. The price looks almost 200K low based on current F40 prices with that mileage (yeah - they are SELLING in the high 3s, low 4s), and based on the VIN that's a 92, not a 91 as stated (VIN digit #10 is N, which = 92. 91 would be M. SteveJ -----Original Message----- From: red5hilser [at] aol.com [mailto:red5hilser [at] aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:12 AM To: Steve Jenkins Cc: alexzanardifan [at] hotmail.com; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 Yea, that's a real cLyDe price all right. If he'll 'loan' me the $210k, I'd be interested! Yer shitbox pal, Ferrari Bubba -----Original Message----- From: fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 You're right, that is a cheap F40....even by late '90s standards. My only guess is that it's a race F40 modified for street use based on those rims. If it's clean, definitely a steal. FG On 1/7/07, Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> wrote: > > > http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=350 987 > > Jason > _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/steve%40stevejenkins.co m Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:45:17 -0600 From: Ric Rainbolt <ricrain [at] airmail.net> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070107184446.0366c0a0 [at] airmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Fake ad. Ric Rainbolt At 10:17 AM 1/7/2007, Jason Polzer wrote: >http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=35 0987 > >Jason >_________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/ric%40rainbolt.com > >Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 19:00:34 -0600 From: "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <45A197B2.8010906 [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Reads like a scam - the wording of the ad, the fact that the contact info is lacking, the price ... I'm sure any Ferrari dealer in the US looking for inventory would write the guy a check for his asking price. BEB Jason Polzer wrote: >http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=35 0987 > >Jason >_________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/brianbuxton%40buxtonmo torsports.com > >Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > -- Brian E. Buxton President, Buxton Motorsports, Inc . www.BuxtonMotorsports.com (812) 476-2281 x 209 Member ThaList.com Managing Partner, Private Label Livery Services www.PrivateLabelLimo.com President, Brian Buxton Enterprises, Inc. Nationwide Enclosed Auto Transportation www.BuxtonMotorsports.com/storage-transportation.php Founder & Past President SO. IN Region PCA www.pca.org/soi ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:24:15 -0500 From: Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <45A1B95F.1050109 [at] internethosting.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I don't understand these scams. Someone that was smart enough to save up $200k for a car is dumb enough to wire it away without performing any due diligence? Or is there a different angle? Curious, Jason Brian E. Buxton wrote: > Reads like a scam - the wording of the ad, the fact that the contact > info is lacking, the price ... I'm sure any Ferrari dealer in the US > looking for inventory would write the guy a check for his asking price. > > BEB > > > Jason Polzer wrote: > >> http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=350 987 >> >> >> Jason >> _________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/brianbuxton%40buxtonmot orsports.com >> >> >> Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper >> >> >> > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:40:34 -0600 From: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: "Jason Polzer" <jason [at] internethosting.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <001201c732d6$c194e7e0$6401a8c0 [at] tu.ok.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What kind of phone number was that? Also, the location was kept secret. For a car like that, valued at around $400k, only 1 picture? And, how do we know that it's actually his car? Or his to sell? I've been involved, in a way, with a guy selling on eBay and seeing cars he was selling advertised by someone else. Cherry picking. So, the whole thing just smells bad. Tom Reynolds Tulsa, OK P.S. At least he picked DuPont Registry rather than eBay... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Polzer" <jason [at] internethosting.com> To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 > I don't understand these scams. Someone that was smart enough to save > up $200k for a car is dumb enough to wire it away without performing any > due diligence? Or is there a different angle? > > Curious, > > Jason > > Brian E. Buxton wrote: > > Reads like a scam - the wording of the ad, the fact that the contact > > info is lacking, the price ... I'm sure any Ferrari dealer in the US > > looking for inventory would write the guy a check for his asking price. > > > > BEB > > > > > > Jason Polzer wrote: > > > >> http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=350 987 > >> > >> > >> Jason > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > >> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/brianbuxton%40buxtonmot orsports.com > >> > >> > >> Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > >> > >> > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/610 - Release Date: 12/30/06 > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:41:26 -0600 From: "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: Jason Polzer <jason [at] internethosting.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <45A1BD66.2060908 [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yes, there are some people who get so caught up in the purchase that they forget to really think about the deal offered to them. I just answered an e-mail from one gentleman last week who almost sent a deposit for a Porsche in Italy on the same premise Let's say someone is enticed to send payment in full for a vehicle - what would really make them leery of this car, unless the price is way out of whack? What if this seller has the VIN, numerous pics and would offer to send you (the buyer) one key to the car and the owners manuals after you send a deposit? Would you trust them more? What about a copy of a (faked) PPI from a shop that a previous interested buyer "paid for" but ended up not buying the car (because of illness, his wife nixing the deal, etc.). What about a faked copy of the "title?" Hell, a Ferrari list member posts a lot of this exact type of info on his web page. What would keep someone from taking those documents and modifying them? Or picking service receipts, etc. out of the trash at an owners house, at the BMV or at the local service center. Would you feel comfortable if you had all of the "service history and documentation"? What if the seller offered to give you the $ of the "previous owner" who was actually his buddy and partner in this scam. You could actually call and talk to a 3rd party person who "sold" the car to the seller you are negotiating with. What about a photo of the car and "seller" with a copy of today's major newspaper in his hand (where you could see the date and front page)? That's a lot of items to make a buyer feel comfortable. Or let's take this from another angle. Maybe the buyer IS smart and wants to fly out to view the car or have his own PPI performed. BUT, the buyer has them put down a $10,000 or $20,000 "refundable" deposit to hold the car until everything is performed or the buyer can make the trip? All this guy has to do is get 5 or 10 people to send deposits, close the account and walk off with $50,000 to $150,000+ dollars! Not bad for a weeks dishonest work. This would be so easy to do I'm surprised that more people don't try it! All you would have to do is walk down any street or go to any car lot and take lots of pics and write down a VIN of a truck, Corvette, Ferrari, Honda, etc. Then run an ad or sell it on E-Bay. Take $5,000 deposits from 10 people and do it all over again! Brian Jason Polzer wrote: > I don't understand these scams. Someone that was smart enough to save > up $200k for a car is dumb enough to wire it away without performing > any due diligence? Or is there a different angle? > > Curious, > > Jason > > Brian E. Buxton wrote: > >> Reads like a scam - the wording of the ad, the fact that the contact >> info is lacking, the price ... I'm sure any Ferrari dealer in the US >> looking for inventory would write the guy a check for his asking price. >> >> BEB >> >> >> Jason Polzer wrote: >> >>> http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=350 987 >>> >>> >>> Jason >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >>> http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/brianbuxton%40buxtonmot orsports.com >>> >>> >>> Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- Brian E. Buxton President, Buxton Motorsports, Inc . www.BuxtonMotorsports.com (812) 476-2281 x 209 Member ThaList.com Managing Partner, Private Label Livery Services www.PrivateLabelLimo.com President, Brian Buxton Enterprises, Inc. Nationwide Enclosed Auto Transportation www.BuxtonMotorsports.com/storage-transportation.php Founder & Past President SO. IN Region PCA www.pca.org/soi ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:06:05 -0600 From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <2860A5B4-A7D2-415C-BD94-F60C4CB15665 [at] mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Brian E. Buxton wrote: > > Yes.. In other words, those scam ads would not be there if they were not working. -ken- ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 23:25:46 -0600 From: "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40 To: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Message-ID: <45A1D5DA.3090306 [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Exactly. Even $5,000 from 1 success out of 10 is still $5,000! BEB Ken Rentiers wrote: > > On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Brian E. Buxton wrote: > >> >> Yes.. > > > In other words, those scam ads would not be there if they were not > working. > > -ken- ------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/listinfo/ferrari End of Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 **************************************
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Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 Dick Petrick, January 8 2007
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Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 Ken Rentiers, January 8 2007
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Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13 Ken Rentiers, January 8 2007
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