Ferrari Mailing List: Re: "Cheap" F40

[LarryT (l02turner]

Hi Brian,
As you suggest, there are lots of ways for a crook to make it appear the 
vehicle is his to sell.  With the sophistication of things like Photoshop 
it;s possible to make documentation look like anything someone wants it to.

When I talked to you about the Italian Porsche I had told the seller I 
wanted a PPI by a local Porsche dealer - even though he said it was in good 
condition who's to say the engine wasn;t blown?  And the reason I wanted a 
OPC (Official Porsche Center) involved was I figured I could contact them 
directly regardless of any phone number the seller may have given me.  I may 
have appeared to be hot to send a deposit but in reality I would not have 
sent any funds until I was sure the car & deal was acceptable.  I believe 
before anyone commits to a purchase like this they should see it in person 
or by a totally independent entity.

Anyway - like you mentioned, the F40 could have all kinds of documentation 
available but it could all be easily counterfeited.  Hmm... I wonder what 
the F40 guy would do if someone gave him a counterfeit cashiers check? <LOL>

In the case of the F40 I would want it taken to the local Ferrari dealer - 
whom I would call using a number located thru a phone book, not provided by 
a seller.  And I would want the PPI to include an analysis of the ownership 
documents.

I  think most scams are successful because a buyer sees a deal where he can 
buy a car cheaper than it should be and wants to complete the deal before 
the seller realizes his mistake.  There's an old saying about "it's 
impossible to cheat an honest man" - most of the people who lose money in 
the Nigerian scams do so because they believe they are getting a piece of 
funds that doesn't belong to them and they'll be taking it from the Nigerian 
govt.  People who think they can buy a perfect F40 for 1/2 the going rate 
think the seller is not thinking clearly and is selling it far to cheaply. 
Before the seller realizes his mistake they want to lock in the deal.  So 
they send in their money and it's lost forever.

Take care -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40


> Yes, there are some people who get so caught up in the purchase that
> they forget to really think about the deal offered to them.  I just
> answered an e-mail from one gentleman last week who almost sent a
> deposit for a Porsche in Italy on the same premise
>
> Let's say someone is enticed to send payment in full for a vehicle -
> what would really make them leery of this car, unless the price is way
> out of whack?  What if this seller has the VIN, numerous pics and would
> offer to send you (the buyer) one key to the car and the owners manuals
> after you send a deposit?  Would you trust them more?  What about a copy
> of a (faked) PPI from a shop that a previous interested buyer "paid for"
> [SNIP]