Ferrari Mailing List: Re: "Cheap" F40

[Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt]

Also check smog history.  If the car is a Kalifornia car go to 
www.smogcheck.ca.gov center panel, a few up from the bottom.  Need license 
plate OR VIN.  This will check the smog history for most cars between 1997 
and up to 6 years ago.  Six year hiatus?  Yeah, new cars don't require a 
smog check until the 6th year.  It doesn't prove anything one way or the 
other but it will give a history as tattooed into the state data base.

DOUG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40


> Hi Brian,
> As you suggest, there are lots of ways for a crook to make it appear the
> vehicle is his to sell.  With the sophistication of things like Photoshop
> it;s possible to make documentation look like anything someone wants it 
> to.
>
> When I talked to you about the Italian Porsche I had told the seller I
> wanted a PPI by a local Porsche dealer - even though he said it was in 
> good
> condition who's to say the engine wasn;t blown?  And the reason I wanted a
> OPC (Official Porsche Center) involved was I figured I could contact them
> directly regardless of any phone number the seller may have given me.  I 
> may
> have appeared to be hot to send a deposit but in reality I would not have
> sent any funds until I was sure the car & deal was acceptable.  I believe
> before anyone commits to a purchase like this they should see it in person
> or by a totally independent entity.
>
> Anyway - like you mentioned, the F40 could have all kinds of documentation
> available but it could all be easily counterfeited.  Hmm... I wonder what
> the F40 guy would do if someone gave him a counterfeit cashiers check? 
> <LOL>
>
> In the case of the F40 I would want it taken to the local Ferrari dealer -
> whom I would call using a number located thru a phone book, not provided 
> by
> a seller.  And I would want the PPI to include an analysis of the 
> ownership
> documents.
>
> I  think most scams are successful because a buyer sees a deal where he 
> can
> buy a car cheaper than it should be and wants to complete the deal before
> the seller realizes his mistake.  There's an old saying about "it's
> impossible to cheat an honest man" - most of the people who lose money in
> the Nigerian scams do so because they believe they are getting a piece of
> funds that doesn't belong to them and they'll be taking it from the 
> Nigerian
> govt.  People who think they can buy a perfect F40 for 1/2 the going rate
> think the seller is not thinking clearly and is selling it far to cheaply.
> Before the seller realizes his mistake they want to lock in the deal.  So
> they send in their money and it's lost forever.
>
> Take care -
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] "Cheap" F40
>
>
> > Yes, there are some people who get so caught up in the purchase that
> > they forget to really think about the deal offered to them.  I just
> > answered an e-mail from one gentleman last week who almost sent a
> > deposit for a Porsche in Italy on the same premise
> >
> > Let's say someone is enticed to send payment in full for a vehicle -
> > what would really make them leery of this car, unless the price is way
> > out of whack?  What if this seller has the VIN, numerous pics and would
> > offer to send you (the buyer) one key to the car and the owners manuals
> > after you send a deposit?  Would you trust them more?  What about a copy
> > of a (faked) PPI from a shop that a previous interested buyer "paid for"
> > [SNIP]
>
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