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Re: OT: Voting records?
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:52:17 -0800 (PST)
Hmmm... Orin Hatch is usually one of the good guys - very ethical - I wonder if there was some wording he didn't like? Sometimes, the title of the bill is misleading - they throw all kinds of extra stuff into it without anything to do with the title.

Try http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/ for the Congressional voting records - this site has them back to 91.

HTHs

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: [Ferrari] OT: Voting records?


If anyone could provide a good link for current voting records, I'd
appreciate it. I thought of Roll Call, but in going to their site I got the
impression that you'd need to subscribe in order to get access. But, I did
find out that in the latest Senate vote on Ethics, the only 2 senators not
voting in favor were one of my Oklahoma guys as well as Orin Hatch of UT.
Had to search quite a bit to find that one...
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa, OK
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>
To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 35


Larry,
Interesting post, and I don't disagree with you, but voting records are
readily available on the internet 24 hrs. a day.  I believe you can also
purchase a printed book each week/month/year from the Gov't.  I have
also seen House and Congressional votes displayed live in a C-Span
channel more than once during the day.

Brian


LarryT wrote:

>Hi Ken - and others,
>    I was born in Orange, Tx - got back to Port Arthur in 73 to work on
the
>then new Texaco refinery - left again in 75 or 76 and haven't made it
back
>since - sadly, the states I've lived in (Va, NJ, SC, SC, Va, Tn, Il
(yuck),
>Md, and Va have all gone in the same direction - left - when the Feds
>stopped following the Bill of Rights (remember states rights ?- it's >what
>started the civil war -) and decided it knew what was best for us. >It's
>been downhill since - for everyone. Now, things are changed at a >federal
>level and no one bothers to mention the 10th Amendment which says:<<The
>powers not [specifically] delegated to the United States by the
>Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the
states 
>respectively, or to the people. >>
>
>    I wonder, just what "right" has been reserved to the people?  Seems
like 
>they all belong to the state of fed to do with as they wish.
>
>    Unfortunately, the lawyers have managed to turn and twist everything
so
>the words no longer mean anything - but what they want them to mean. >The
>Commerce clause has been bastardized to mean *anything* they want so >that
me
>giving my friend a piece of bubble gum can be construed as "Commerce" >and
>the fed can put itself in-between the transaction.
>
> It's a shame we couldn't keep the good parts of the things that have
>happened over the past 50 years and toss the unintended consequences -
like
>keep civil rights and toss preferences. But that won't happen and the
scum
>that rises to the top of the pond to be elected only continue to make
things 
>worse.
>
>    Everytime they try to "simplify" the tax code they add 30-40,000
words
>of legalese that no one understands - not even the IRS. In the end, >the
>tax code is still used to make the public do things in certain ways.
>
> There's so many things wrong with the way the Govt is being run I
wonder
>if it can be fixed - certainly not by the caliber of men who dominate >the
>parties. Even the freedom of speech was tossed out by the Supremes when
>they were asked to rule on the provision of the last Campaign Finance
Reform
>law which says grassroots organizations cannot publicize the politicians
>voting records and positions on important issues during the 60 days >prior
to
>an election! That means the groups you & I belong to so they can keep >us
>informed of the things important to us have been muzzled - the
politicians
>obviously don;t want us to know how they vote or what their position is.
Of
>course, the main stream media is excluded. That way, only half the >story
>gets told.
>
> Sorry about the rant - this thread touched a nerve. ;-) "Don't
Mess
>With Texas!!"
>
>Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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>.
>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com>
>To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 6, Issue 35
>
>
>
>
>>Steve:
>>
>>I got to Texas back in 1978. After color TV, but before Algore
>>invented the internet and global warming. Soon I was going out for
>>dinner with some friends; we met at someone's house. On the way out
>>the door I am asked if I want a "go-cup".
>>
>>"What is a go-cup?"
>>
>>Turns out it was a drink in a plastic cup to have while you were on
>>your way to dinner. See, Texas had no law against drinking and
>>driving. The law specified that you could not drive drunk. But there
>>was nothing against sipping a cool one on the commute home.
>>
>>This was back in the days when citizens were still assumed to have
>>some semblance of personal responsibility. Before point .08,and
>>Hysterical Mothers Against Anything Remotely Construed As Fun.
>>
>>Over the holidays I drove through California. The roads are riddled
>>with intrusive lighted signs advising drivers to call and report any
>>drunk drivers. Of course, anyone who has gone too heavy on the
>>cologne is going to blow .08, beer or no beer, and now the populace
>>are being enlisted as snitches.
>>
>>It sucks. I hate the Nanny State. All Osama and friends have to do is
>>wait. We are pissing away America completely unaided by outside
>>interference. Am I in favor of drunk driving- hell no. Do I think
>>there are any less drunks out there in WussWorld then there were in
>>manly prehistory?
>>
>>Hell no.
>>
>>ken
>>
>>
>>On Jan 20, 2007, at 3:33 PM, BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Ken:
>>>
>>>Too many damn Yankees (you know, not everyone who has moved in,
>>>just those
>>>who have moved to TX because they weren't happy at home and then
>>>spend all of
>>>their time trying to change it with their damned "this isn't the
>>>way we used
>>>to do it back home in "X
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