Ferrari Mailing List: Re: stinky question update SNAFU

[Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt]

Hi Rob - yer right about the ride - heck, its about time we get Martin, you, 
and James together.  If we go fast enough, we will get our own CHP escort - 
heh heh

What I was trying to point out about Randy's situation is perhaps the engine 
is running hot - hotter than ours and at rest, in the garage, the gas boils 
out of the float bowls.  Stinko. Someone put in a higher thermostat?  Car 
running lean?  Missing insulating material between intake and carbs?

Either that - or horrors - there is a gas leak under pressure.

The old 914 Porsche with its plastic fuel lines located under the battery 
were prone to deterioration, producing small holes, under FI pressures and 
when the time was right - kaPOOOF.  Surely bad for morale.

Lets peel the onion - OK, lets say the gas is boiling out of the carbs - the 
passenger side air inlet would be the emitter of stinks - very strong 
stinks.

If there is a leak in an otherwise other area - then that would emit the 
smells.  A guess here is a line that is not used unless the car is under 
power and being outside any gas smell is not noticed as much as if it occurs 
inside.

Lastly, depending where and what type of gas is being used, if there is a 
lot of alcohol, the fuel will evap faster.

What to do?  Find a smog shop.  Take the analyzer tip and pass it over 
various parts of the engine and carbs.  If the fumes peg the analyzer - 
that's the spot. (this works well to find out if a head gasket has blown - 
on an engine cool enough to release the overflow tank fill cap, pass the 
analyzer probe over [not IN] the coolant.  Any rise in HC you gots a head 
gasket problem.)

Well, Randy - keep us posted.  Change gas first - that's the easiest and 
number two is look for any obvious or suspicious evidence of fuel leaks.  A 
real clean spot is a clue.  heh heh

DOUG



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] stinky question update SNAFU


> Randy,
>
> How long have you had the car? And is this your first carbed
> Ferrari?  The reason I ask is since you car has  an engine  overhaul
> all the stuff i was talikng about is probably not the case. However
> the the stinky smell could just be the normal operation of a 30 year
> old carbed car.
> After a drive do you find black deposits on your rear bumper? Doug
> thinks lean but lean cars usually burn up the fuel. I am guessing
> since the cats
> are removed aand no air pumps you are running rich like my car which
> would give you many smells to complain about or love. My wife likes the
> Ferrari but sometimes after stop and go traffic she is mad cause her
> hair smells like exhaust....
>
> I think the car is fine, we are just used to modern fuel efficient
> and clean burning cars!
>
> Rob
>
> ps Doug how are you doing, its about time you me and Martin team up
> again for a ride!
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2007, at 7:39 PM, RANDYJEANE [at] aol.com wrote:
>
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions, but my engine has 1500 miles on a
> > complete overhaul with all new seals and gaskets. There was a
> > problem with a couple of the new seals, but they were replaced and
> > there is no leaking I can see or spots on the floor. I'll check
> > them again.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2007 9:26:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > rgarven [at] gmail.com writes:
> > Randy,
> >
> > Several places to look on old 308's for oil leaks are the distributor
> > shaft seals which can leak and the cam seal and lower valve covers
> > gaskets which can seep minute amounts that end up all over
> > the starter, alternator and headers and or heat shields. Sometimes if
> > the engine is dirty it is hard to find where the leak is originating
> > from. I was joking but the rich exhaust however it can be can be
> > pretty much but should go away after a few minutes with the engine
> > off. Without the air-pumps and cats the car runs about 100 degrees
> > cooler (it
> > seems). When mine is hooked up when you open the boot
> > the car was so hot it would melt rubber, without the pumps it is just
> > warm. It could also be coolant leaking and burning. If fuel is
> > burning off then you have a problem! Once again even my car which is
> > very clean in a real odoriferous device.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > See what's free at AOL.com.
>
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