Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fw: no surprise....Bernie bows out

[Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt]

Hey Doug ... were you along on that junket?

Naw - I was stuck in Long Beach GP area.
DOUG


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To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fw: no surprise....Bernie bows out


> Ken, et al: The last time that I attended the USGP (West), it was held in 
> the parking lot of Ceasars Palace on the strip in 'Vegas. I think it was 
> run in the mid 1970's and I was comped at the hotel?of course. I don't 
> remember much about the race, but?I do?remember it was HOT, plus?I met and 
> had my picture taken with Juan Manuel Fangio, which was one of the thrills 
> of my life. As a footnote, I remember that the hookers raised their prices 
> about 25% that weekend because of all the rich Europeans in town for the 
> race. Hey Doug ... were you along on that junket?
>
> Older & wiser now, yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ken rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fw: no surprise....Bernie bows out
>
>
>
> here's the take from http://www.autoextremist.com/
>
> FUMES by Hydrogen Boy
>
>
> Formula 1 in the U.S.? Not in Las Vegas, please.
>
> Detroit. Judging by the latest rumors flying around, if Bernie
> Ecclestone and Tony George don't come to an agreement to renew the
> U.S. Grand Prix at Indianapolis, Bernie wants to put the race in Las
> Vegas, of all places, on a newly created temporary street circuit.
> Not that I have a problem with Las Vegas or anything - after all, the
> "Disneyland for adults" does have its merits, but for a Grand Prix?
> Not so much. Which brings me to this point: The fact that our U.S.
> Grand Prix isn't at one of our premier natural-terrain road racing
> circuits is a disgrace.
>
> And the reason that the U.S. Grand Prix isn't at Road America,
> Watkins Glen or Laguna Seca is not because they aren't great
> circuits, but because the "amenities" that F1 demands in order for
> them to show up are obscenely cost prohibitive. Not only that, they
> would disfigure these great circuits and change their ambience
> forever. F1 won't go anywhere without their sacrosanct garages, local
> color and charm be damned. That's because F1 doesn't like surprises
> and has zero tolerance for deviation from their required
> specifications before they'll even consider showing up (ask Tony
> George, he totally revamped the Indianapolis Motor Speedway to
> accommodate F1's wishes, and in hindsight, not to a positive degree,
> either). Note that "the quality of the racing" isn't part of the
> initial discussion or consideration for F1. Instead, it's about
> whether or not the F1 circus can tolerate being in that particular
> locale long enough to get a race in.
>
> Formula 1 is a sanitized and orchestrated version of its previous
> self - I know, not exactly a news flash there. Yes, fans can prattle
> on about the rolling techno-wonders and sheer spectacle of it all -
> blah-blah-blah - but the emotional connection to the racing just
> isn't there anymore. Not even if you squint and conjure up wonderful
> thoughts. Can you imagine seeing an F1 driver hoisting a few at the
> Seneca Lodge in Watkins Glen or at Siebkens in Elkhart Lake,
> Wisconsin, in this day and age? Not a chance.
>
> Bernie Ecclestone has gone where the money is his entire career, and
> F1 is a perfect mirror image of the man. If Las Vegas throws enough
> money at him and he deems the accommodations "acceptable" to his
> luxury-focused F1 Traveling Salvation Show, then that's where the
> U.S. Grand Prix will be.
>
> That doesn't mean we'll have to watch it - or go - however.
>
> Publisher's Note: The Indianapolis Motor Speedway announced this
> morning (7/12/07) that the United States Grand Prix would not be on
> the 2008 Formula One schedule after eight consecutive annual events
> since 2000. After recent meetings, Indianapolis Motor Speedway CEO
> Tony George and Formula One Management Ltd. CEO Bernie Ecclestone
> mutually agreed to disagree on various details. "After several
> discussions, Bernie Ecclestone and I were unable to agree how to keep
> Formula One in Indianapolis for the near term," George said.
> "However, we have agreed to leave the door open for a potential
> future date. It has been a pleasure having the United States Grand
> Prix at Indianapolis, and I hope that as we approach our Centennial
> Era at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, an opportunity might present
> itself that would allow its return." So now Bernie gets his wish, and
> it's on to the next sap who will pay his price for the "privilege" of
> hosting a Formula 1 race in the U.S. - PMD
>
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