Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fw: no surprise....Bernie bows out

[cmlf1 (cmlf1]

If I recall correctly (and I may not) Las Vegas Raceway was designed with F1 in 
mind, as it was proposed to bring F1 to Vegas well before the USGP at Indy. It 
makes sense logistically, as naturally LV can lodge numerous visitors to the 
race, and offers nightlife and activity for foreign visitors as well, as I 
would see the appeal of vegas to visit for a week as opposed to Indy...


Carl.

----- Original Message -----
From: LarryT 
Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:28 am
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fw: no surprise....Bernie bows out
To: cmlf1 [at] optonline.net
Cc: The FerrariList 

> Hmmm... Las Vegas,.... seems like we had a go at that F1 in 
> the Parking 
> Lot already - back in the 80s IIRC - and it wasn't all that 
> great. Like a 
> glorified Gymkhana. ;-)
> 
> I'd love to see F1 at the Glen again - real class. And VIR 
> is one of 
> the most beautiful tracks in the country - and that says a LOT. 
> With all 
> the glory associated with tracks from coast-to-coast - and 
> Bernie can't find 
> one he likes? Absurd. It's like the blog says, it's all about 
> money. 
> We're the rishest country in the world and Bernie wants some of 
> it .
> 
> Have a nice day --
> 
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ken rentiers" 
> To: "Larry Turner" 
> Cc: "The FerrariList" 
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fw: no surprise....Bernie bows out
> 
> 
> > here's the take from http://www.autoextremist.com/
> >
> > FUMES by Hydrogen Boy
> >
> >
> > Formula 1 in the U.S.? Not in Las Vegas, please.
> >
> > Detroit. Judging by the latest rumors flying around, if Bernie
> > Ecclestone and Tony George don't come to an agreement to renew the
> > U.S. Grand Prix at Indianapolis, Bernie wants to put the race 
> in Las
> > Vegas, of all places, on a newly created temporary street circuit.
> > Not that I have a problem with Las Vegas or anything - after 
> all, the
> > "Disneyland for adults" does have its merits, but for a Grand Prix?
> > Not so much. Which brings me to this point: The fact that our U.S.
> > Grand Prix isn't at one of our premier natural-terrain road racing
> > circuits is a disgrace.
> >
> > And the reason that the U.S. Grand Prix isn't at Road America,
> > Watkins Glen or Laguna Seca is not because they aren't great
> > circuits, but because the "amenities" that F1 demands in order for
> > them to show up are obscenely cost prohibitive. Not only that, they
> > would disfigure these great circuits and change their ambience
> > forever. F1 won't go anywhere without their sacrosanct 
> garages, local
> > color and charm be damned. That's because F1 doesn't like surprises
> > and has zero tolerance for deviation from their required
> > specifications before they'll even consider showing up (ask Tony
> > George, he totally revamped the Indianapolis Motor Speedway to
> > accommodate F1's wishes, and in hindsight, not to a positive degree,
> > either). Note that "the quality of the racing" isn't part of the
> > initial discussion or consideration for F1. Instead, it's about
> > whether or not the F1 circus can tolerate being in that particular
> > locale long enough to get a race in.
> >
> > Formula 1 is a sanitized and orchestrated version of its previous
> > self - I know, not exactly a news flash there. Yes, fans can prattle
> > on about the rolling techno-wonders and sheer spectacle of it 
> all -
> > blah-blah-blah - but the emotional connection to the racing just
> > isn't there anymore. Not even if you squint and conjure up wonderful
> > thoughts. Can you imagine seeing an F1 driver hoisting a few 
> at the
> > Seneca Lodge in Watkins Glen or at Siebkens in Elkhart Lake,
> > Wisconsin, in this day and age? Not a chance.
> >
> > Bernie Ecclestone has gone where the money is his entire 
> career, and
> > F1 is a perfect mirror image of the man. If Las Vegas throws enough
> > money at him and he deems the accommodations "acceptable" to his
> > luxury-focused F1 Traveling Salvation Show, then that's where the
> > U.S. Grand Prix will be.
> >
> > That doesn't mean we'll have to watch it - or go - however.
> >
> > Publisher's Note: The Indianapolis Motor Speedway announced this
> > morning (7/12/07) that the United States Grand Prix would not 
> be on
> > the 2008 Formula One schedule after eight consecutive annual events
> > since 2000. After recent meetings, Indianapolis Motor Speedway CEO
> > Tony George and Formula One Management Ltd. CEO Bernie Ecclestone
> > mutually agreed to disagree on various details. "After several
> > discussions, Bernie Ecclestone and I were unable to agree how 
> to keep
> > Formula One in Indianapolis for the near term," George said.
> > "However, we have agreed to leave the door open for a potential
> > future date. It has been a pleasure having the United States Grand
> > Prix at Indianapolis, and I hope that as we approach our Centennial
> > Era at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, an opportunity might present
> > itself that would allow its return." So now Bernie gets his 
> wish, and
> > it's on to the next sap who will pay his price for the 
> "privilege" of
> > hosting a Formula 1 race in the U.S. - PMD
> >
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