Ferrari Mailing List: Re: ot Maserati GranTurismo

[AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com (autoworld]

Dan, okay, so apparently you have a crystal ball. ;) I have a friend here in 
Del Mar, CA that is looking for something new, but he's a stickler for 
reliability. Is the QP rife will little annoyances? Will the dealer deal? How's 
the lease's residual value look... dismal?
- Bob 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Warlick 
  To: autoworld [at] roadrunner.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] ot Maserati GranTurismo


  I can tell you I do not have a crystal ball but they will NOT hold a 
  premium. You have to consider for example the Quattroporte in this judgment. 
  The Duo-Select trans cars were rather clunky themselves and I have one 
  associate who owns an F/M dealership with at least 14 QP's in stock that 
  just aren't moving. Some of these are actually the new automatic version. 
  The word is not out yet on what a great driver the new auto is. People are 
  also unaware that it is a 612 chassis on these cars. That being the case the 
  cars are growing hair. The new GT, should it get the press I think it 
  deserves, may actually keep a decent value and be what Maserati needs. I 
  would say that once the silly premium hoopla has died down that those cars 
  may be sitting as well in readily available status. Just by the way the 
  market moves on anything but Ferraris and of course the opposite end of the 
  spectrum Astons, I would think that a $120k MSRP car with under 5k miles 
  would be in the $85k-$90k range in a year if they sell well. PLEASE, NOBODY 
  SAVE THIS EMAIL AND SEND IT TO ME NEXT YEAR IF IT TURNS OUT I'M WAY OFF. I 
  DO NOT HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL!!!! Remember, I am working in the current market 
  and I know the offers I have now and what I buy them for now. I would think 
  you should to hear how fellow lister Brain Buxton feels regarding this 
  subject and then combine both of our opinions to get a better idea. Right 
  now it's all speculation.

  Dan Warlick
  954-725-6331 Office
  208-493-3529 Fax
  954-793-3529 Mobile



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: <autoworld [at] roadrunner.com>
  To: "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net>
  Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
  Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] ot Maserati GranTurismo


  >I have my eye on the GranTurismo car as my next daily driver (if all goes
  > well, less than a year from now -- I never buy new). Until I saw the 
  > changes
  > made in this new model, I had been planning on a pre-owned F575 or clean
  > 550.
  >
  > My criteria for this next car of mine is simple: I'm looking for a 
  > "driver's
  > car" with timeless, classic lines and uncomplicated mechanicals (at least 
  > as
  > uncomplicated as possible today). I'd opt for no navigation and a
  > gate-shifter, but on the latter, I don't that's possible on the Masi. A
  > point to Ferrari on that one.
  >
  > I plan on driving this car as often, and as far as I want, probably doing
  > 5-8K mi/year (miles=dollars be damned), and am hopeful that the long term
  > cost of ownership in this Masi may be improved over a 575/550.
  >
  > Since you know the Marque's recent market history better than I, let me 
  > ask:
  > how quickly do you think they will fall in price, post-purchase, and are
  > they fussy or are they of a durable design?
  >
  > Thanks, Bob
  >
  >
  > On 10/4/07 5:56 AM, "Dan Warlick" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
  >
  >> I receive my first 08 GT in the middle of October. It's Black over Beige.
  >> MSRP on it is actually $119,150.00. Remember, I buy and sell these things
  >> for a living. I already have an offer from another F/M dealership for the
  >> car at a little over MSRP. With the new automatic mated to paddle 
  >> shifters
  >> it is sure to be quite fun and as stated in the R&T article a lot less
  >> clunky. The shame is I will only drive it the day I get
  >> it......miles=dollars you know. It is a very beautiful design however. If 
  >> I
  >> could attach things to these emails I would send you guys the build 
  >> sheet. I
  >> am told that some dealers will ask in the $20k to perhaps $30k over 
  >> range. I
  >> think to purchase one there would be foolish as of course one would lose 
  >> all
  >> of that and then some. But again, sure to be a very nice car.
  >> Dan Warlick
  >> 954-725-6331 Office
  >> 208-493-3529 Fax
  >> 954-793-3529 Mobile
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
  >> To: "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net>
  >> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
  >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:21 PM
  >> Subject: [Ferrari] oMaserati GranTurismp
  >>
  >>
  >>>    The new issue of R&T (Nov) has a short thing about this new addition 
  >>> to
  >>> the Maser line.  With a V8 & 405hp, and a very high level of fit 'n
  >>> finish,
  >>> it will hopefully sell like Italian hotcakes.   The part most noticible
  >>> was
  >>> the photo - from bumper level at 25feet it's an incredibly beautiful
  >>> design
  >>> IMHO.   Priced at $110K it's out of my price range - hopefully some or 
  >>> all
  >>> of ya'll will buy one so I can live vicariously through you. ;-) 
  >>> Drive
  >>> it
  >>> hard and fast then tell me all about it.
  >>>
  >>>    Hmmm I wonder if I could convince a dealership to let me borrow one 
  >>> for
  >>> the weekend?   <lol> Doubtful, *real* doubtful.  ;-)  About as likely as
  >>> the
  >>> ferrari dealer letting me borrow a F430 to see how I like it. ;-)  They
  >>> obviously have more sense than that!
  >>>
  >>> Love this car!!
  >>>
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