Re: Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event)
From: Tom Reynolds (kjtarcox.net)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT)
?? What Oklahoma blizzards?  Chicago, yeah, but not Tulsa.  Of course we had a 
spell of ice for about a week and a half last year which sucked. Just started 
driving the SS again (could finally afford the insurance but will probably keep 
it as a weekend car, use the 300E for daily driver.  
Tom
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ken rentiers 
  To: Tom Reynolds 
  Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event)


  Hey Tom what is the carbon footprint on that Camaro SS? I think everyone 
(else) should get a Smart, or even better, rollerblades or a horse. More 
gasoline for me! Screw the grandchildren - let them eat soy-cake. And petroleum 
is a renewable resource, just takes a few hundred million years to renew,  
that's all! 


  'scuse me while I ramp up the a/c and flip on the megawatt plasma flat 
screen. 


  K


  .ps How are Smarts in those OK blizzards? Remember there's not much between 
Tulsa and the North Pole except a few strands of barbed wire! It's almost 
November....


  On Oct 14, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Tom Reynolds wrote:


    What are the statistics?  Most (80 to 90% of all trips are within 25 miles
    of home?  Something like that.) So, for most trips, the Smartfortwo or a
    similar vehicle would make sense.  And, don't hold your breath, but there
    will be  more "similar vehicles."  I don't have to tell you about supply and
    demand (whether you believe the things the oil companies are telling you or
    not) and gas prices and OPEC, the world situation, etc. Gas prices are going
    to go up. Gas is a non renewable resource.  Gee, both big surprises, huh?
    So, whether you're going to live long enough to see the change coming, it
    will come.  We will have to adapt, whether we like it or not.  A small,
    economical, eco friendly personal transportation device, is in your, or your
    children's, or certainly in your grandchildren's future.
    The Smartfortwo (for the U.S.) is only one of the first steps.  Yeah, it's
    the smallest vehicle, but like Britt said (thank you for seeing the
    dichotomy of the safety argument, Britt) it makes sense, and most of the
    time people will be using such a vehicle to go to and from their work.  No
    high speed, just maybe a bit less congestion, a lot easier to park, easier
    on the billfold, the environment, the petrol supplies, etc. And there will
    be hybrids coming (if the U.S. can open their minds instead of sticking like
    dinosaurs to "this is the way we've done it, we like it, so leave us the
    f*** alone..." mentality) which will be even easier on our personal economy,
    the environment, etc. etc.
    No one, least of all me, is proposing the Smartfortwo or the like should be
    anyone's "fun" car or daily driver if you drive on highways or expressways
    or Interstates where the traffic flow is going at a high(er) speed than
    you'd be comfortable with in a "small" car.  Unless you drive a Fiat 850 or
    TR3, TR4, TR6, TR7, MGB, Alfa, oh, do I really need to go on...and are
    comfortable in those situations with that car, then you could feel
    comfortable in the Smartfortwo. Hell, if a box truck is going to do me in,
    well, we all have to go sometime.  Shit, I better not go out and ride my
    bike 50 miles because some yahoo in a land yacht Queen Mary might be talking
    on her cell phone or looking at the nav system and run over me like a
    steamroller over a squirrel.  Such is life, and death.  And, I'm not
    planning on buying a Smartfortwo or any such, at least not now, but I think
    it would be interesting to drive and maybe "down the road" it would be a
    viable alternative for the lifestyle Karen and I end up living.
    Best regards to all, and let's all drive smart. Friendly. Aware. Whatever.
    Tom Reynolds
    Tulsa, OK
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "ken rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com>
    To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
    Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
    Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:24 PM
    Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event)






      On Oct 13, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Britt wrote:


          In many large cities over here the Smart works great, traffic
          speeds are
          low, the congestion charges are lower as are the road taxes and
          unlike
          motorcycles/mopeds/bicycles ect you have a roof over your head for
          all the
          crap
          weather. They turn on a dime and can park nose in to the crub legally
          (like a
          motorbike).


      All well. but why would you then advocate the same vehicle in an
      environment where traffic speeds are high ( like 70 - 80 mph on the
      freeways). there are no congestion charges or road taxes and no nose-
      in parking is permitted. Fwiw I think an F350  dualie would be a Dumb
      vehicle to drive in inner London or Paris but it makes perfect sense
      here for many folks.


      I can imagine the horror of the effete French if Ford pickups were
      introduced, don't be too hard on us for recoiling when we see a
      Smart. Our roads have already been infested with the mobile chicanes
      known as a "Prius".


      What the world needs now is a decently priced flux capacitor.
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