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From: BRIGANDBAR (BRIGANDBAR![]() |
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Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:18:10 -0700 (PDT) |
In a message dated 10/14/2007 12:59:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Britt2Asa writes: For real economy get a modern German diesel. My BMW 3.0 is fantastic and does 44mpg. The new Audi 2.0 diesel is really good as well. VW does some good engines. If god forbid big US cities try the Congestion charging like London has you may see a lot MORE small cars. The proposal from Feb 2008 is that the charge to drive into London (which is basically anything within the M25 including Heathrow, will cost £25.00 or 50 US Dollars A DAY unless it is a small economical environmentally friendly engine in which case it will be free. Next time you fly into Heathrow and wonder why it costs a fortune to get into the city here is your answer. Brit: You and I are in firm agreement on the expanded use of diesels. Both of my large trucks , the F-350 & the Excursion are diesels as they are operated in profit making ventures, the business and the ranch and the alternative V-10 @ 8 mpg was not a viable alternative. I wish the U.S. Governments EPA would just step out of the picture and allow us some of the really efficient, and great to own automobile diesels. Unfortunately, by the time many of them get here they have been so modified that their mpg benefits are minimized. I don't know for sure, but I don't think that BMW is available in the U.S. The other problem we face is that, unlike the rest of the world, our national distributors of BMW, MB, etc. insist that we only see their cars as super-luxury models and withhold some of the best of their diesels, as well as many models available in the rest of the world in alternative trim versions. MBUSA would never even consider importing something like the 240D's that were used universally in Europe and the rest of the world as taxicabs, nor would they import trucks like the Unimog for fear that MB be discovered as a manufacturer of practical , utilitarian vehicles as well as the luxury models that they insist we buy with all sorts of options such as sunroofs, etc. They even only order their available G-Class vehicles with those sunroofs despite the fact that with some rugged off-road or primitive road driving they never work correctly again and cannot be made to stop leaking. But then again, since many of them never even have the 4wd mechanisms engaged by the soccer moms who drive them to the mall that probably isn't a frequent warranty repair issue (maybe a point in favor of your original theorem). I guess I just hate government interference in my choice of automobiles (as well as a lot of other things if the truth be known), and the way that they regulate my conduct, e.g. I can ride a motorcycle without a helmet but I can't drive my car without wearing a seat belt. Darwin tells me that if I want to drive without a seat belt mankind will advance by one small contribution to the diminution of the gene pool hence they are defeating the entire purpose of evolutionary advancement. I have a colleague that thinks that perhaps we could advance mankind by legalizing currently illicit drugs such as heroin and methamphetamine, but I don't think I'd go quite that far despite the fact that other than the increase of the crime rate by addicts seeking funds by committing crimes, which could be self-resolving in a republic with lawfully armed citizens who elect to exercise their right to keep and bear arms in their defense I have little to argue with his hypothesis. As for being "off-topic", I don't have a problem with off-topic discussions on the list, in fact I'm in favor of them until they begin to endlessly dominate the content and SJ does an excellent job of intervening at that point. Ferrari's are just one part of our lives though owning and driving one provides much insight into who we are so why not permit, within reason, other expressions of who we are as well. Even Maranello tells us that owning a Ferrari is a "lifestyle", not just automobile ownership so in fact any such discussion may by some be defined as not "off-topic". Additionally, it is intellectually stimulating to hear the views of other folks who also own one of the great cars, which is though, an example of excess and hardly the poster child for earth and resource-friendly consumption. And it broadens perspectives in that many times folks from other continents lack an understanding of events and customs elswhere. 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- Re: Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event), (continued)
- Re: Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event) BRIGANDBAR, October 14 2007
- Re: Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event) BRIGANDBAR, October 14 2007
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Re: Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event) Britt2Asa, October 14 2007
- Re: Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event) Fellippe Galletta, October 14 2007
- Re: Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event) BRIGANDBAR, October 14 2007
- Re: Not So "Smart" Car (was Tulsa Event) LarryT, October 14 2007
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