Ferrari Mailing List: Re: TR service

[Martin Stark (MStark]

Can you get at the upper hose without engine removal?

clyde wrote:

> Don't forget to change the upper
> Hose if it has been on there for 5 yrs and save the old one as a combat road 
> spare!
>
> Clyde
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net>
> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:43:53 
> To:clyde romero <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] TR service
>
> I changed to Zerex G-05 about 2 years ago - 50/50 with distilled water.  I'm 
> back to using the old green stuff which I plan to change yearly.
>
> clyde romero wrote: I have a 512 TR with 88k on it and have never had a problem with the water pump leaking. I change the coolant yearly. Clyde Mobile 678 641 9932 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U. S. C., Sections 2510-2521, and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, copying, forwarding or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient but do not wish to receive communications through this medium please so advise the sender immediately. Electronic Transmission Security Notice: E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of the message that arise as a result of its electronic (e-mail) transmission. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Stark [mailto:MStark [at] Copper.net: <mailto:MStark [at] Copper.net> ] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 8:29 AM To: clyde Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com: <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] TR service Tom - The water pump repair and timing belt replacement alone would have cost approx. $4300.and the additional items added approx. $2600. to that. (Had I not supplied the Mobil 1, brake fluid (LMA), and Freon R-12 it would have cost about $400. more.) I chose to have the work done at a dealer since I've recently had several negative experiences at independent repair shops - F-car and other marques. The TR was in the shop for about 2 weeks. Fwiw, most water pump problems are due to leaking seals not failure of the pump to circulate coolant. My TR was cooling just fine, but replenishing the coolant and cleaning it up from my garage floor was becoming a pita. I did send an email to Zerex detailing the failure and offering to send them the old seal for analysis. For the ultimate irony, I dropped off my wife's XK8 at the dealer on the way to reclaiming my TR; reason, leaking water pump. Tom Reynolds wrote: Marty, Holy moley. Er, if I may ask, what did all that cost? I have a figure in mind, obviously a guess, but if you don't mind...How long was it in the shop/off the road? Did you experience cooling difficulties which led to the service initially? I remember back in the dim past when my water pump went south and I paid (to me) the ridiculous sum of ~$400 for another one on the departed 'Mario'. Thanks, Marty. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Tulsa, OK P.S. How many miles do you drive it per year, approx? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stark" &lt;MStark [at] Copper.net&gt;: <mailto:MStark [at] Copper.net> To: "Tom Reynolds" &lt;kjtar [at] cox.net&gt;: <mailto:kjtar [at] cox.net> Cc: "The FerrariList" &lt;ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com&gt;: <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: [Ferrari] TR service Getting ready to reclaim my '87 TR from FoNE this afternoon. A leaking water pump seal prompted a modified major service that included: * Rebuild the f*ing water pump (which was rebuilt less than 12K miles ago) * Flush coolant (Zerex G-05) and replace with Shell std green antifreeze  * Rebuild the alternator, upgrade its rectifier bridge, and replace the plastic fan with a metal one * Clean the clutch dust from the starter's pinion shaft and install thread inserts (not Heli-coils) in its mounting holes * Install stronger rear brackets for the belly pan * Replace a bad coil lead * Replace one distributor cap and rotor and both caps' cork gaskets * Replace timing belts and tensioner bearings * Clean both throttle plates and adjust baseline mixture and idle * Repaint the cam covers in situ * Heli-coil oil sump plate * Flush brake fluid * Change oil and oil filter - Mobil 15W-50 I wonder if the highly praised G-05, which I switched to about 2 years ago, might have caused the pre-mature pump failure. I'm considering sending the carbon seal to the Zerex folks for analysis. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net: <http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net> Sponsored by BidNip.com eBay Auction Sniper http://www.BidNip.com/: <http://www.BidNip.com/> and F1 Headlines http://www.F1Headlines.com/: <http://www.F1Headlines.com/> -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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