Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Well, that just about sums it up

[Fellippe Galletta (fellippe.galletta]

I interpret this engine thread more as a matter of taste (Corvette vs. GT-R)
than about pushrod vs. forced induction. I wish Liu could appreciate the
joys of big domestic V8s, and Singh tolerate the Skyline...but alas it looks
like that won't happen.

I too wish this grew into a powertrain analysis discussion. There are many
interesting things to compare...pushrod vs. DOHC, forced induction versus
naturally aspirated, turbocharging vs. supercharging (and the various forms
of each application), even V8 vs. V10 vs. V12.

I don't believe there's a simple answer to any of these questions, nor
should there be one universal solution for all engine problems. It'd be
interesting to speak to AMG Powertrain Engineers as they pretty much have
everything listed above but a V10 in their lineup....blown 5.5 v8, n/a
6.3v8, turbo
6.5 v12. Ford also has a variety of motors in their lineup as well.

The compromises a working Engineer must deal with is something tuners and
enthusiasts do not have to be bothered with. If indeed the LS7 is superior
in every way shape and form to an S2000 motor, then there must be a
marketing/accounting/finance/environmental/etc. reason for going with
inferior technology or methods.

I declare this battle a draw, and order both parties to kiss & make up or at
least take it to the track.

:)

FG



On Dec 5, 2007 10:25 PM, Dennis Liu <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm pretty much blown away by this statement from Lashdeep.  I think it
> pretty much shows his POV.  Ask yourself if you really think this is
> correct.
>
> >Regarding the supercars you listed...their powertrain engineers should be
> fired. They couldn't figure out how to make that power out of n/a engine
> technology?  Or lighten their vehicles? I'd love to see engine weights and
> sizes...prob not so impressive at that point. Anyone can throw a blower
> onto
> a motor. Where is the skill or technology there? I think you're missing
> the
> point again on why these cars are not in the least bit impressive from an
> engine tech standpoint. And...I don't think I can type this point up
> again.
>
> ==============
>
> So...  all of the powertrain engineers at Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, Bentley,
> Bugatti, Audi, Jaguar, Ford, Audi, Lotus and even Chevrolet are idiots,
> and
> the guys building and selling custom V8s in their garages are geniuses?
>
> Wow.
>
> Well, that's it for me.  I'm outta here....
>
> vty,
>
> --Dennis
>
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