Re: Well, that just about sums it up
From: Tom Reynolds (kjtarcox.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 05:07:16 -0800 (PST)
I'll take a diesel (CDI, TDI, Bluetec, whatever) with a manual transmission
and sport suspension.  Just make it "affordable" and dependable (including
of course the car's other ancillary systems) and I'll buy.
I don't really care for all that power, in day to day driving it's pretty
much like giving a pig a strawberry, so to speak.  0-60 MPH in 5 seconds or
so (or less) is nice on paper (and in the small of the back) but it's not
too often that you really need to use it.  IMO handling (cornering, braking,
transitional response) and fuel  economy are more important in a daily
driver than pure acceleration.  But then again, that's just me.  Interesting
discussion, I just hope you guys are still friends.
        As far as the best way to increase engine power, I'll leave that to
the respective engineering departments of the automakers.  And, of course,
not to be forgotten, the cost accountants and marketing departments.  *sigh*
Tom in Tulsa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Liu" <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com>
To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: [Ferrari] Well, that just about sums it up


> I'm pretty much blown away by this statement from Lashdeep.  I think it
> pretty much shows his POV.  Ask yourself if you really think this is
> correct.
>
> >Regarding the supercars you listed...their powertrain engineers should be
> fired. They couldn't figure out how to make that power out of n/a engine
> technology?  Or lighten their vehicles? I'd love to see engine weights and
> sizes...prob not so impressive at that point. Anyone can throw a blower
onto
> a motor. Where is the skill or technology there? I think you're missing
the
> point again on why these cars are not in the least bit impressive from an
> engine tech standpoint. And...I don't think I can type this point up
again.
>
> ==============
>
> So...  all of the powertrain engineers at Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, Bentley,
> Bugatti, Audi, Jaguar, Ford, Audi, Lotus and even Chevrolet are idiots,
and
> the guys building and selling custom V8s in their garages are geniuses?
>
> Wow.
>
> Well, that's it for me.  I'm outta here....
>
> vty,
>
> --Dennis
>
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