Re: Well, that just about sums it up
From: Matt Boyd (ferrari308drivergmail.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 05:12:13 -0800 (PST)
Just to throw this off on a tangent, what I would like as my daily driver is
an Ariel Atom.  At least on nice days that aren't too cold!  :-)  Last I
considered it (several months ago), no one had tried to get one street legal
in Virginia....I'll have to check again and see if anyone has been
successful yet.

-matt
'85 euro 308


On 12/6/07, Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net> wrote:
>
> I'll take a diesel (CDI, TDI, Bluetec, whatever) with a manual
> transmission
> and sport suspension.  Just make it "affordable" and dependable (including
> of course the car's other ancillary systems) and I'll buy.
> I don't really care for all that power, in day to day driving it's pretty
> much like giving a pig a strawberry, so to speak.  0-60 MPH in 5 seconds
> or
> so (or less) is nice on paper (and in the small of the back) but it's not
> too often that you really need to use it.  IMO handling (cornering,
> braking,
> transitional response) and fuel  economy are more important in a daily
> driver than pure acceleration.  But then again, that's just
> me.  Interesting
> discussion, I just hope you guys are still friends.
>        As far as the best way to increase engine power, I'll leave that to
> the respective engineering departments of the automakers.  And, of course,
> not to be forgotten, the cost accountants and marketing
> departments.  *sigh*
> Tom in Tulsa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Liu" <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com>
> To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:25 PM
> Subject: [Ferrari] Well, that just about sums it up
>
>
> > I'm pretty much blown away by this statement from Lashdeep.  I think it
> > pretty much shows his POV.  Ask yourself if you really think this is
> > correct.
> >
> > >Regarding the supercars you listed...their powertrain engineers should
> be
> > fired. They couldn't figure out how to make that power out of n/a engine
> > technology?  Or lighten their vehicles? I'd love to see engine weights
> and
> > sizes...prob not so impressive at that point. Anyone can throw a blower
> onto
> > a motor. Where is the skill or technology there? I think you're missing
> the
> > point again on why these cars are not in the least bit impressive from
> an
> > engine tech standpoint. And...I don't think I can type this point up
> again.
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > So...  all of the powertrain engineers at Porsche, Mercedes-Benz,
> Bentley,
> > Bugatti, Audi, Jaguar, Ford, Audi, Lotus and even Chevrolet are idiots,
> and
> > the guys building and selling custom V8s in their garages are geniuses?
> >
> > Wow.
> >
> > Well, that's it for me.  I'm outta here....
> >
> > vty,
> >
> > --Dennis
> >
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