Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Women should stop admiring Ferrari owners

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As a confirmed environmentalist and, once, activist - there is plenty  
we can do to not hurt the planet as much as we do.  Like the waste  
stream - which although beginning to be addressed by wide-scale  
recycling programs and consumer education - but still manages to  
continue to grow WORSE everyday.  Those are things we CAN control - by  
limiting the use of one-time products and concentrate on recyclable  
materials as much as possible.

To the contrary, the carbon debate has gotten out of hand.  Number one  
contributors are still bovine flatulence (that's right - cow farts)  
and volcanic eruptions (while we might cut down the first by reducing  
beef consumption - we can't do anything about the latter).  I recall  
reading a few years back that the eruptions at Krakatoa and Mt.  
Penitubo each let off more ozone depleting gas and carbon than a  
decade of ALL vehicle emissions - including blasting hundreds of tons  
of SO2 (sulfer-dioxide which both depletes ozone AND causes acid rain)  
- directly into the upper atmosphere.  One article stated that there  
were more emissions from those two volcanic eruptions that all car  
emissions - EVER.

Sure, we could do better - - and that is one area where we are.  I  
recall reading that, because of emission controls, it is now almost  
impossible to asphyxiate one's self in a two car garage using the  
exhaust emissions from one car (although the "suicide guide" says  
there are still plenty of emissions if you use a hose to divert the  
exhaust emissions INTO the car).   The difference since the advent of  
the catalytic converter is on the order of one 1970's car being the  
equivalent of 25 - 30 2000's car.  Still, there are so many other  
sources - home heating, industrial, etc. that are for worse -- from  
the perspective of Man's carbon footprint.

Like anything else, the extremists tend to lose the war that the  
moderates are fighting.  Like Rick said, you are NEVER going to get  
the people here - let alone India or China to give up their motorbikes  
and cars to go back to horses and bicycles (hmmm, I wonder how much  
greenhouse emissions there are in horse farts??)

Scottie


On Dec 19, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote:

> These folks have exactly one quest; to makes
> themselves feel like they are important.
>
> rick
>
> --- ken rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Agree completely Rick.
> >
> > If the entire human population drank Jim Jones
> > Kool-Aid™ today, you
> > would need very sensitive instruments to record any
> > resultant shift
> > in temperatures. It's all a scam by the assembled
> > tin-pot caudillos
> > of all the reeking, authoritarian, third-world
> > cesspools to effect a
> > giant transfer of money and power in their
> > direction. We need to
> > relocate UN headquarters somewhere more appropriate.
> > Port-Au-Prince
> > comes to mind.
> >
> > Enjoy your F1 repartee btw.
> >
> > ken
> >
> > On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > > This is all stupid.  Do these people actually
> > think
> > > they can regulate a begillion people in the likes
> > of
> > > China and India - or do they think they can just
> > > punish American and Europe for the assumed sins of
> > the
> > > world?  (No, I'm not picking on Asia, just
> > developing
> > > contries in general.)
> > >
> > > I am a scientist and I believe that humans CAN
> > > influence the climate but only in a tiny
> > unmeasurable
> > > way compared to what the Earth itself can and HAS
> > DONE
> > > many times over.  I mean, this planet has been
> > FROZEN
> > > OVER and it has also been a tropical furnace.  And
> > > these conditions weren't caused by humans or
> > fossils
> > > using fossil fuels!  :-P  The point is; It is
> > typical
> > > human arrogance to believe that we're important
> > enough
> > > to actually damage the Earth!  Folks, on this
> > scale,
> > > we're just not that important.
> > >
> > > rick - geophysicist, carbon fuel producer and
> > carbon
> > > user in a 308GTB
>
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