Ferrari Mailing List: Re: NFC, Looking for some Gun advice.

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   The Starling population in this country is absoltuely amazing!  IIRC, 
Starlings were imported into this country by Englishmen so they would have 
something for wingshooting.  As we have seen, the Starlimgs adapted very 
nicely!   Like everyone else, I;ve seen *huge* flocks of these birds.  I 
wonder if they migrate?  If they do, \they may be protected by the Migratory 
Bird Act which protects migratory bids like geese and vultures.
   Here, in Va, there is a large problem for generations of turkey Vutures 
where they are along the migratory flyway   They tend to gather in the same 
areas year after year and cause problems for homeowners who find the trees 
in their yard fled with hugh birds - which leave huge droppings. ;-\.
Bye -
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jenkins" <steve [at] stevejenkins.com>

To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:41 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC, Looking for some Gun advice.
I took a couple shots this morning at some coyotes in my back yard. Does
that count? :)
I've also stood in my driveway with my neighbot\r But it eine from

across the street neighbor, both of

us with 12ga shotguns, as we "cleared the air" of mud-slinging, next
building starlings.
Then we walked over to his house and did the same. :)
Personal "protection" with firearms comes in all shapes and sizes. :)
SJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:kjtar [at] cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:52 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC, Looking for some Gun advice.

    Thank you for asking that, John.  I was wondering the same thing last

night before I went to bed, but I thought I'd hold off on posting until

"tomorrow".

    In my situation, I'd never handled any weapons, being born in Chicago,

living there until I was 9, then moving to the suburbs (Arlington 
Heights).

Funny, but in Chicago, living in a 4th floor walk-up, I never had any

problems with "bad influences" from other kids, no gang members, etc. 
Didn't

know any swear words, etc.  First day at the new school in Arlington

Heights, there was the word "chit" written in white chalk on the red brick

underneath one of the grade school windows.  But I digress.  Just thought

that was ironic.

    Wife Karen got a CCW in Arizona, ex son-in-law was a Cochise County

deputy and a "gun nut", introduced us to a number of different weapons, 
took

us shooting, taught us the safety aspects of guns, handling, etc.  Friend

used to go elk hunting, invited me and another guy to go out to a range 
near

Bisbee to sight in his hunting rifle, very nice piece with a beautiful

scope, that was very much fun.  Another old school chum now living in Ada,

MI has a huge gun safe, loads all his own ammo, etc.

    But, I never personally felt the need to carry or even own a gun.  I

admit, they're fun to shoot (everything from a bolt action .22 to a 12 
gauge

to pistols, rifles) but I just can't see myself "carrying" a weapon.  I

don't know if I'd be able to shoot someone.  Now, yeah, someone came at me

with a knife, okay.  But when does that happen?

    Closest thing to that was just a few months ago.  Co-worker decided 
not

to park in the free parking lot provided to employees of the Tulsa World, 
as

some cars had been broken into, so friend Dale decided to park on the 
street

a block or so away.  On the way to his car after work, he was walking 
toward

his car and up the sidewalk a bit, heading towards him, were several 
youths.

I saw the situation and, having already gotten to my car, drove over to 
him

and stopped, lowered my window, and started talking to him, asking him if 
he

needed a ride or any other kind of assistance.  Because I was there, the

youths continued on their path, and after they had cleared the area, I 
drove

slowly with my friend the short distance to his car.

    Once when I was young and "socially active" I was with a friend in

Lacrosse, WI and all of a sudden, appearing out of nowhere, were two other

guys, we were standing facing one another, and before I knew what was

happening, my buddy was pummeling his adversary, the poor guy's friend ran

to help, and I was after him, then the cops came.  But, no weapons of any

kind.  Maybe I've just been lucky, I did have some martial arts training 
and

was repeatedly admonished, "Never walk towards a fight."

       So, sorry for the long winded post, but I've been pretty quiet

lately, thought, since it was early, I'd burn some bandwidth.  Anyone ever

used their weapon, and what were the results?
Tom Reynolds

(with a gun and ammo somewhere in the house)

Tulsa, OK

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <JAshburne [at] aol.com>

To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>

Cc: <dave.craig [at] sbcglobal.net>; <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 11:39 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC, Looking for some Gun advice.

Hi Guys
Reading through this thread has made me curious as to whether any of you

has

ever needed to use your weapon in a true self defense situation?
It's funny, but up here in the Northeast, I don't think that I know more

than maybe one person who carries a weapon regularly other than my 
friends

who

are cops.  Maybe I hang out in all the wrong places, but this whole area,

New

York City included, is a comparatively low crime area and the number of
incidents between strangers is fairly rare.  I just wouldn't think that

carrying

would be a big necessity.
BTW, I'm asking just because I'm curious.  I'm a big proponent of the 
2nd

Amendment and I don't have any issues whatsoever with people's desire  to

own

and carry guns.   I do have a little bit of experience with  guns in that

I'm a

former recreational trap shooter and did get trained for a  pistol permit
several years ago, handling a variety of pistols.
John

In a message dated 12/21/2007 1:30:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
dave [at] davehanda.com writes:
Clyde,
You're talking to a bunch of Ferrari Guys, don't preach to use about what

we

"need", that is obviously irrelevant, or we would all be driving  Hondas!
All hail Ferraris and M203/M40 "bloopers"!   ;-)
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: clyde  romero [mailto:clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, December 21,  2007 11:27 AM
To: dave [at] davehanda.com
Cc: dave.craig [at] sbcglobal.net;  ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC, Looking for some Gun  advice.
Whats worse is that most people buy more weapon than they  need!

Clyde

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Re: NFC, Looking for some Gun advice.	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:14:52 -0800 (PST)