Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Transmission / Shifter question

[LS (lashdeep]

Mike, I've heard this time and time again from instructors. I think hand/foot 
placement is a personal choice. One of the best drivers on the track I've seen 
only drives with one hand and two feet.

I think it largely depends on the car and the personal preference of the 
driver. You wouldn't use the same driving technique in a 365 GTB/4 as you would 
in a Formula Ford.

What I found is that instructors are great at teaching what works for them in 
the cars they have driven. I've found it very valuable to learn from drivers 
that have considerable training and experience in *your* exact car.

A very talented and skilled SCCA racer gave me tips based on his considerable 
experience in Acura Integras. The guy was good. The problem was, I was in a 
Mustang and honestly, he didn't know how to drive it. 

A factory Trans Am driver got in and showed me what was what. 

BTW-is this Mike Fliescher? How's that 348 doing?

LS



----- Original Message ----
From: Mike <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:51:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Transmission / Shifter question


I can't say it is bad for a transmission but anyone who has had any decent
training on a racetrack knows hands go at 9 and 3 or 10 and 2.  They only
leave to shift or to cover your head right before hitting a barrier.  And in
a driving school to signal someone to pass you (I always tried to avoid
doing that one).

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Hans E. Hansen [mailto:FList [at] hanshansen.org] 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:00 PM
To: Mike Fleischer
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Transmission / Shifter question

Definitely concur with Jeff.  I've seen many, many trannies with
shift forks wore almost thin as cardboard from doing this.  Also
can be caused by something badly wrong in the shift linkage
(depends on the car......).  The syncro and the fork are made
of somewhat similar materials (usually....  ) and even with grease
in between, similar metals will tend to wear fast when rubbed together.
That's why metal-to-metal bearings (crank bearings, bronze bushings,
etc.) are always dissimilar metals.  The forks were never meant to
have continuous pressure on them.

Hans.

On 2/23/08, Jeff Greenfield <coyote [at] acme-ltd.com> wrote:
> I've rebuilt more than a few manual transmissions in my life.
>
> I don't think resting your hand on the shifter will cause any synchro
> wear. However, IT WILL cause excessive wear to the shift forks and
> this IMHO is a bad thing. I suppose worn shift forks could accelerate
> synchro wear.
>
> So, like resting your foot on the clutch pedal when not actually
> shifting is a bad thing, so is resting your hand on the shifter.
>
> All that said, it is kind of hard (on a 308/328 anyway) to rest your
> hand on the shifter (at least comfortably) in such a way to actually
> put pressure on it to cause this sort of wear.
>
> Does this clear things up any?
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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