Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Crushed Cars

[red5hilser (red5hilser]

Hey Hans: Kudos to you. Correct as usual, my friend. Will I be allowed a 
blindfold and last cigarette before I'm paraded up to the wall and shot? I'll 
bet that cLyDe(TM) is having a good yuk over this. <g>

Yer humble pal, Shitbox(TM) Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: Hans
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars



Bill:

You don't have it quite right.  You're referring to the Grand Sports.
Penske was involved in their long controversial history, as were
others.  The story goes that 5 were built, and then GM brass
ordered them destroyed after they enacted a ban on racing.  They
disappeared for a while, were presumed destroyed, but now all
of them are accounted for.

A couple of years ago, clear evidence of a 6th Grand Sport surfaced.
Even Penske recalled a 6th car, and there is a photo of 6 cars
lined up.  The newest version of the story goes that the GM
employee ordered to destroy them set fire to one of the cars
and perhaps some other lesser cars.  He pointed to the burnt
mess as evidence that he carried out orders.  It was probably
him that smuggled the 5 remaining cars out.

Hans.

On 2/28/08, red5hilser [at] aol.com <red5hilser [at] aol.com> wrote:
> Hey Larry: The Chevrolet Division of GM did the same thing to all the 
> Corvette 
race cars that they had loaned to Roger Penske for the season back in 'the 
days.' Only thing was, that the GM employee in charge of the crushing, being 
the 
car-nut that he was, misplaced one. It's still out there somewhere. I read 
about 
it in R&T years ago. I think they were raced in the old Trans-Am series.
>
> And as far as the long-gone 1961 156 shark noses, Phil Hill drove an exact 
replica (except for the nose badge) that Chris Rhea had built for his 
documentary film in Wolfgang von Tripps. After about 20 minutes of track time, 
Phil came in and said that it was very apparent?that it was?nothing like the 
original factory?156. Unlike the Team cars, this one was well built and?didn't 
have?the rather shoddy construction or?feel of Enzo's machines.
>
> IMHO, the only reason that Hill won the WDC was that the V-6 Ferrari engine 
had a 40-50 horsepower advantage over the Brits. Not withstanding that his only 
rival, Tripps was killed in the last, and deciding race held at Monza
> On real drivers courses, the 156 didn't do too well, with Stirling Moss 
winning at Monte Carlo, and I think, the old Nurburgring. Somebody out there 
will have to check for?me on the latter.
>
> Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LarryT
> Subject: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars
>
>
>
> Howdy -
>
>    I assume everyone knows that Enzo had some of his race cars (like the
> shark nosed F1 cars that took Phil Hill to become World Champion) crushed
> after they became obsolete.  Just heard the 1st 2 prototypes of the XKE were
> also crushed.
>
>    I'm wondering why they crushed them?  Protecting secrets? eccentric?
> some other reason?
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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