Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Crushed Cars

[Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt]

A few years ago at Willow Springs VARA (or was it Las Vegas?) event I saw 
one of these - rather funny looking/. Sorta stubby - but fast.  Had the 
"Penske" touch with external air connectors to lift the car on the passenger 
fender.
DOUG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars


> Hey Hans: Kudos to you. Correct as usual, my friend. Will I be allowed a 
> blindfold and last cigarette before I'm paraded up to the wall and shot? 
> I'll bet that cLyDe(TM) is having a good yuk over this. <g>
>
> Yer humble pal, Shitbox(TM) Bubba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars
>
>
>
> Bill:
>
> You don't have it quite right.  You're referring to the Grand Sports.
> Penske was involved in their long controversial history, as were
> others.  The story goes that 5 were built, and then GM brass
> ordered them destroyed after they enacted a ban on racing.  They
> disappeared for a while, were presumed destroyed, but now all
> of them are accounted for.
>
> A couple of years ago, clear evidence of a 6th Grand Sport surfaced.
> Even Penske recalled a 6th car, and there is a photo of 6 cars
> lined up.  The newest version of the story goes that the GM
> employee ordered to destroy them set fire to one of the cars
> and perhaps some other lesser cars.  He pointed to the burnt
> mess as evidence that he carried out orders.  It was probably
> him that smuggled the 5 remaining cars out.
>
> Hans.
>
> On 2/28/08, red5hilser [at] aol.com <red5hilser [at] aol.com> wrote:
> > Hey Larry: The Chevrolet Division of GM did the same thing to all the 
> > Corvette
> race cars that they had loaned to Roger Penske for the season back in 'the
> days.' Only thing was, that the GM employee in charge of the crushing, 
> being the
> car-nut that he was, misplaced one. It's still out there somewhere. I read 
> about
> it in R&T years ago. I think they were raced in the old Trans-Am series.
> > And as far as the long-gone 1961 156 shark noses, Phil Hill drove an 
> > exact
> replica (except for the nose badge) that Chris Rhea had built for his
> documentary film in Wolfgang von Tripps. After about 20 minutes of track 
> time,
> Phil came in and said that it was very apparent?that it was?nothing like 
> the
> original factory?156. Unlike the Team cars, this one was well built 
> and?didn't
> have?the rather shoddy construction or?feel of Enzo's machines.
> > IMHO, the only reason that Hill won the WDC was that the V-6 Ferrari 
> > engine
> had a 40-50 horsepower advantage over the Brits. Not withstanding that his 
> only
> rival, Tripps was killed in the last, and deciding race held at Monza
> > On real drivers courses, the 156 didn't do too well, with Stirling Moss
> winning at Monte Carlo, and I think, the old Nurburgring. Somebody out 
> there
> will have to check for?me on the latter.
> > Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LarryT
> > Subject: [Ferrari] Crushed Cars
> >
> >
> >
> > Howdy -
> >
> >    I assume everyone knows that Enzo had some of his race cars (like the
> > shark nosed F1 cars that took Phil Hill to become World Champion) crushed
> > after they became obsolete.  Just heard the 1st 2 prototypes of the XKE 
> > were
> > also crushed.
> >
> >    I'm wondering why they crushed them?  Protecting secrets? eccentric?
> > some other reason?
> >
> > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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