Re: Ferrari Digest: Immigration attitude No Ferraricontent (not even a litt
From: Misc (misc308systems.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
Having a wife from Mexico City, I have a good window into the immigrant
community, legal and illegal.  From my experience, 99% of the illegal
immigrants are no differerent than you or I.   They work in low paying, back
breaking jobs, they pay social security taxes, they pay rent, they pay
property taxes on the cars and stuff they purchase, they pay rent to a
landlord such as yourselves, they attend church regularly, their children go
to schools paid for by the property taxes on the homes they pay rent in,
etc.  This is not hype, this is my personal experience.

They DO NOT recieve social security checks, etc, they only recieve medical
care when something is drastically wrong(and then they go to the emergency
room where anyone(legal or illegal) can go to get services.

The only "benefits" they get for being here is a higher paying($5 - $10/hr)
job, which is not available in Mexico/Columbia/Guatemala, etc.  These people
are meatpackers, maids, concrete workers, steel workers, farm hands, etc.
There is nothing keeping them from losing their jobs to a legal US citizen,
except for a lack us legal US citizens applying for these types of jobs at
$5 - $10/hr.

In summary, they contribute more to this country than the slackers hanging
out on welfare who don't want to get a job because they might make too much
money and not qualify for further welfare.

In my opinion, we should deport the slackers and keep the workers.......

Mark Lueker
308 SYSTEMS Inc.
970-282-7006
www.308systems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com [mailto:BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 12:25 PM
To: Mark
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest: Immigration attitude No
Ferraricontent (not even a litt


Phil:

I have a different quote from a Chief Patrol Agent of a Border Patrol
Sector
which necessarily remains anonymous:

"Post a "No Vacancy" sign and end immigration entirely. Do like the
Japanese
do and allow the real H1B candidates, exception scientists, engineers,
business representatives of  foreign corporations such as Nissan, Toyota
just to
mention a few and their sales staff, etc., and physicians and surgeons,
etc.,
to enter the country and to stay for an extended period of time, paying  all
of the taxes that we pay, including Social(ist) Security, but accruing no
benefits , ever, as they are already accruing the benefit of living in the
U.S.
Cut off all payments of all kinds, and all aid, except for emergency
medical
services, but not continuing care, to all non-citizens, and deport all
illegal
aliens, ASAP after they participate in a CCC type work project to  improve
roads, etc. in this country for a specified length of time, and  seize all
of
their accrued assets as illegally obtained gains (after all if  they weren't
in
this country they would not have accrued  them). The, simply reduce all
welfare and "on the dole" program  benefits to 60% of the net income after
taxes,
and without earned income  credits at the level of the minimum wage. Then
offer
the folks on welfare the  opportunity to "do the jobs Americans won't do" to
make up the  difference."

Actually, I couldn't have said it better myself, but then again in the
discussion between us I have probably said all of that at one time or
another.
Incidentally, he in not big on the government's "catch and  release" formula
currently in place of the undocumented aliens. It might work  for animals
and
fish who are endangered species, but illegal aliens don't quite  fit into
that
category.

We certainly can afford some opportunities for the truly gifted of other
nations, but, even a motel that generates revenue from occupancy knows when
it
is so fully it cannot properly accommodate any more based upon capacity and
the
 ability to properly provide services to those already there.

Just some simple thoughts from one of Homeland Security's finest, who deals
with these problems on the front line every single work day of his life.

Dr. Steve

1964 Rolls  Royce Silver Cloud III...........1975 Pontiac GV Conv.
1980 MB  450SL..................................1982 RR Corniche
1985 MB 280 GE  G-Wagen................. 1985 GMC Brigadier 20 Ton
Winch/Wrecker
1988 Rolls  Royce Silver Spur................1990 Cadillac "Eagle" Hearse
1994 F-350  Powerstroke 4x4................1995 Ferrari 348 Spyder
1996 Bronco  ......................................2000 Lincoln Town Car
2004  Excursion...................................(+ Audrey's 2x MB's)
and  a
1976 Fire Truck...................................HAHN, WARNER &  SWASEY-
DUPLEX
DIVISION  HOWE  APPARTUS . MODEL #R400 FIRE  TRUCK w/a 100' Tower


Dr. Stephen B. Spies, CES,  CFI
Director, Forensic Sciences Laboratory
Explosives Engineering  Technologies

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