Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Latest Government Actions (NFC) [Ferrari Digest, Vol 26, Issue 27]

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Ahh the season of Flist politics is upon us...  Being someone who 

typically votes against a candidate rather than for one, man I miss the 

days of guns and watches and home theater equipment discussions...

I have been reading a lot of this clap trap and diatribe of:  If you 

like enemas and eating babies so and so is your man...  with a definite 

undertone of "you suck for thinking that way" behind it all.

Seriously that isn't so much a dialog as an attempt at bullying your 

beliefs onto everyone else.  If you are going to talk about what is 

important to you, talk about what is important to you and if you really 

want to put it out there say why...  Personally two things in life are 

inevitable:  Death and taxes...

I can frame what I want:
1.  To always have good opportunities for employment and places to live

2.  To know my family is happy (most of the time), safe and healthy and 

will be for their entire lives

3.  To keep all the money I earn and to be able to spend it on what I 

want and where I want.

4.  To know that my children, if they work for it, will have as good or 

better lives than I did

5.  To be free to travel, explore, speak, read, learn, pray and be 

social how ever I want.

6.  To know my neighbors share my values.

7.  To know that the things I truly need in life (food, shelter, health 

care) will always be affordable

8.  To know my friends and their friends and their friends have all the 

above items...

Which parts of the list above do I think are a social responsibility 

that people recognize eg everyone sees that those goals are something we 

all should strive for?  VS something the government needs to enforce and 

mandate since the people are too ignorant, greedy, or unorganized to do 

it? 

My view:
People:  #1, #2, #3, #4, #6
Govmint:  #5, #7, #8

So that isn't too bad... Now as for candidates:  They all are pretty 

much the same.  Economics should drive most important decisions and 

having good advisors, qualified people, and a bit of good luck as with 

any endeavour, is the real key...  I would not hire an electrical 

engineer to build a bridge and I would not hire a lawyer to remove my 

appendix...  I would hire the best civil engineer and doctor I could 

afford...  This is no different...  Find out who has the best team, or 

can put together the best team and go with them.  So can Obama and Biden 

build a better team than McCain and Palin?  They pull from the same 

pools of people pretty much so which pair will listen to their advice 

and which pair is smarter?  I don't know the answer to that, but I don't 

think Palin adds a lot of capability into the mix...  Kinda like hiring 

your secretary to be your new CEO...  Sure she may have sat in on a few 

meetings but she is seriously unqualified to balance the books every 

quarter...

Its all moot since we have an electoral college anyhow and those snow 

blind Inuits from Alaska's votes count for like 3000 of us lower 48 

stater's voters...

Ah now to go eat some babies and vote for higher taxes.... 

BR,
Mike

BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com wrote:

Tom:

Maybe so, but I think you have to look at the past several years, at least  

since 9/11 to judge someone for the highest office in the land.

If you believe in the Second Amendment, personal responsibility, and the  

ability to retain wealth that is earned, then Barry Hussein is not your man. If  

you are a liberal thinker who believes that those of us who have earned our  

(sometimes meager) wealth are obligated to use it in furtherance of avarice and 

 indolence, affirmative action that distorts the quality of our employment 

and  educational institutions through reverse discrimination, and that your 

personal  property rights should be subordinated to social engineering, then of 

course  Barry Hussein is the right choice.

Its not a matter of good and evil, simply a matter of personal values (and  

of course the Constitution). If you agree with what B.H.O. has done with his  

adult life and think that you want America to follow that course vote for him  

for those reasons, not cute sayings of speech writers that he can memorize and 

 regurgitate.

Just hire the man who actually stands for one's personal belief structure,  

not the pretty face or TV anchorman presentation when recruiting for what may 

be  the most important job in the entire world and is certainly the most 

important  in the United States.

If Barry Hussein Obame is your man, go for it. If not, look elsewhere for  

national leadership.

And either way, hopefully we'll still be friends.

Dr. Steve

In a message dated 9/19/2008 9:24:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  

kjtar [at] cox.net writes:

All I  know is that Barack is smart, has good people around him, and can
speak in  public without embarrasing himself (if he were sensitive enough  to
recognize any slight errors). Also I saw a great quote, which I'll  repeat
here:
Capitalism's criminal excesses saved by socialist  governmental policies. (Or
something like that, it was in the Tulsa World  today, from a Nader speech as
OSU Tulsa campus).
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa,  OK

----- Original Message ----- 

From:  <BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com>

To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc:  "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, September  18, 2008 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Latest Government Actions (NFC)  [Ferrari Digest,Vol
26, Issue 27]

Larry:

If  there were only to be a solution. Do we vote for Barry Hussein Obama,
 whose depth of experience is only exceeded by my son who is a  college

senior and

might even graduate eventually, or the  McManchurian candidate, a good

sailor

who  stood up as best he  could for as long as he could to the Hanoi Hilton

and

who is   to be respected for that, but that experience is just  not

applicable

to  the job he is seeking, particularly after  leaving his first wife who
stood by a  Navy POW Aviator during  his confinement in the PRVN, but was

then

enticed by the   riches of his second wife, who performs the same duties

for him as

 Ms.  Heinz-Kerry does for her former sailr?

Votes for any  other third party are "throw-a-ways" that will do no good,

so

it is  once again a choice of the lesser of two evils a vote AGAINST a
 candidate  rather than FOR one.

And where do we stand  financially? According to B. Hussein I am wealthy,

and

according to  his opponent I shall never achieve that status. If it were

only

a  field of four in which one could choose to vote for POTUS by  giving

him/her

 the highest number of votes and for V-POTUS by  giving him/her the second
highest  number of votes. I would  predict a Palin victory for the highest

office

of the  land  and who knows perhaps Command McManchuria might come in as
 V-POTUS.

I am, today, really glad to be retired from my first  primary occupation as

I

am not certain that I could respond in the  affirmative to the question as

to

whether or not I would "take a  bullet" for any of them. I was a simple
question  when Ronald  Reagan was alive and well serving as POTUS but

self-interest

 most  probably would have prevailed (except during the period  immediately
following  9/11).

Dr.  Steve

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Re: Latest Government Actions (NFC) [Ferrari Digest, Vol 26, Issue 27]	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Mike Fleischer (themightytoegmail.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:50:40 -0700 (PDT)