Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?

[E M (pokiebaron]

Green recounts a recent conversation with Luca di
 Montezemolo, president of Ferrari. "He said the styling was
 dictated by aerodynamics and the need to keep a Ferrari glued
 to the road at 180-plus,"

If that's the case, then any car as ugly as the Enzo should have much higher
levels of performance than it does.

I think there should be a division of styling at Ferrari.  95% of owners
never go anywhere near the cars limits, so the trade off of ugly for
performance is a waste.  I think they should divide their models into 2
groups, the really ugly ones with hyper performance for the guys who are
interest in track work, and GT cars, which would focus on beauty.  For the
odd time a GT car is run really fast, or flat out, it's almost always in a
straight line on the highway anyway.

Sure, it's nice to have stability at 180 in a straight line too, but for the
few times it happens, do what everyone did up until a few years ago; when
you feel the front wheels life off the ground, back off a tad. :-)  If you
have to trade off all those potential great looks, for added down force cos
you might get caught out at 180, then you're probably in over you head
anyway, have no right swimming in the deep end of the pool. hee hee

Just my thoughts from a guy who drives a car with a wiggly back end. :-)

Ed
911SC

2008/11/11 <red5hilser [at] aol.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grahame
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
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> 308 GT4 - now you're talking!
> > -----Original Message-----
>  From: LS
>
>  I agree totally!
>  GT4s do not get the respect they deserve...beautiful!
>  ...but Jim's 308GTB is freakin' beautiful!
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>  -----Original Message-----From: LS <lashdeep> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are
> Ferraris
>  Losing Their Good Looks?
>
>  Most of everything new is plain ugly...only the Astons and
>  maybe the shape of the Murci are "attractive".
>  The 430? No thanks. The 612 and 599 are atrocious.
>  The 997 TT? What is that thing?
>  The new M3? Looks like a fat chick I dated for 3 days in
>  1992. The M6 looks like her mother.
>  The Skyline GTR is one of the ugliest "sporty" cars I've seen
>  in a long time.
>  While at the Ferrari dealership recently, there was a 430
>  Scuderia parked next to a 365 GTC/4.
>  While the Scuderia was being mobbed by 14 yr olds, I pulled
>  my pants down and attempted to mount the Azzuro California C4
>  with polished Borranis.
>  It's definitely not a case of the "good old days"...as I
>  wasn't even born when the C4 came out.
>  LS
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>  ----- Original Message ----From: Dan Warlick
>  <edwf430 [at] att.net>To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>Cc:
>  ferrari [at] ferrarilist.comSent: Monday, November 10, 2008
>  7:55:46 PMSubject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
>  I am inclined to agree with the author. I do think the 360 is
>  far more graceful than the 430 and I love the old stuff.
>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry B"
>  <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>To: "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] att.net>Cc: "The
>  FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>Sent: Monday, November
>  10, 2008 7:35 PMSubject: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their
>  Good Looks?
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>  NYT article (sans pictures), for those who might be interested.
>  November 10, 2008, 3:37 pmAre Ferraris Losing Their Good
>  Looks?By Richard Chang Gavin Green of Car magazine in Britain
>  raised an issue I've thought about quite a bit lately: that
>  Ferraris "aren't gorgeous anymore."Mr. Green took issue with
>  the fat rear end of the new California model, but didn't stop
>  there. "The 612 is fussy and ill-proportioned," he said. "The
>  Enzo is more bug than bird. Even the F430 lacks the visual
>  grace and profile poetry of the old F355, the last lovely
>  Ferrari."Mr. Green points to its recent Formula One drivers,
>  Michael Schumacher and Kimi Raikkonen, both staid
>  individuals, and asks: Has Ferrari lost that innate Italian
>  coolness?More likely, it has to do with aerodynamics. And Mr.
>  Green recounts a recent conversation with Luca di
>  Montezemolo, president of Ferrari. "He said the styling was
>  dictated by aerodynamics and the need to keep a Ferrari glued
>  to the road at 180-plus," Mr. Green writes. "That's why the
>  Enzo is all wedge and scoops and slats and chunky lines. That
>  big fat rump of the California — more bustle bum than bikini
>  bottom — helps aero performance, or so Luca says."It hasn't
>  helped that a whole slew of beautiful vintage Ferraris were
>  on the auction block this year, including Steve McQueen's
>  1963 250 GT/L Berlinetta Lusso and this 1961 250 California
>  Spyder once owned by James Coburn:They don't design them like
>  the 1961 Ferrari 250 California Spyder
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