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From: philville dejazzd.com (philville dejazzd.com)
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| Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:54:18 -0800 (PST) | |
Being the hard nose all time old Ferrari enthusiast that I am, I have to say that I do like the new spyder. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: rolindsay [at] yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:05 am Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com > The biggest style element is that almost all new designs have > very tall back ends. This is the natural evolution from the > jelly-bean styles of thr '90s where MPG was all that mattered. > Even the beautiful 360 has tall hips. > > But here's the kicker; evolution creates adaptations that become > more elaborate with time. Then when the environment changes, > death and extinction follows. This leads me to wonder what the > next "revolution" will bring, as the tall-butt-jelly-beans > expire. > > Dang i'ts early for this kind of talk... > > Rick - in Las Vegas > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: "E M" <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com> > > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:23:12 > To: rolindsay<rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> > Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? > > > Green recounts a recent conversation with Luca di > Montezemolo, president of Ferrari. "He said the styling was > dictated by aerodynamics and the need to keep a Ferrari glued > to the road at 180-plus," > > If that's the case, then any car as ugly as the Enzo should have > much higher > levels of performance than it does. > > I think there should be a division of styling at Ferrari. > 95% of owners > never go anywhere near the cars limits, so the trade off of ugly for > performance is a waste. I think they should divide their > models into 2 > groups, the really ugly ones with hyper performance for the guys > who are > interest in track work, and GT cars, which would focus on > beauty. For the > odd time a GT car is run really fast, or flat out, it's almost > always in a > straight line on the highway anyway. > > Sure, it's nice to have stability at 180 in a straight line too, > but for the > few times it happens, do what everyone did up until a few years > ago; when > you feel the front wheels life off the ground, back off a tad. :- > ) If you > have to trade off all those potential great looks, for added > down force cos > you might get caught out at 180, then you're probably in over > you head > anyway, have no right swimming in the deep end of the pool. hee hee > > Just my thoughts from a guy who drives a car with a wiggly back > end. :-) > > Ed > 911SC > > 2008/11/11 <red5hilser [at] aol.com> > > > Better not tell (check 6) cLyDe. It would kill him! > > > > Yer Shitbox pal, Bubba > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Grahame > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? > > > > > > > > 308 GT4 - now you're talking! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: LS > > > > I agree totally! > > GT4s do not get the respect they deserve...beautiful! > > ...but Jim's 308GTB is freakin' beautiful! > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message-----From: LS <lashdeep> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are > > Ferraris > > Losing Their Good Looks? > > > > Most of everything new is plain ugly...only the Astons and > > maybe the shape of the Murci are "attractive". > > The 430? No thanks. The 612 and 599 are atrocious. > > The 997 TT? What is that thing? > > The new M3? Looks like a fat chick I dated for 3 days in > > 1992. The M6 looks like her mother. > > The Skyline GTR is one of the ugliest "sporty" cars I've seen > > in a long time. > > While at the Ferrari dealership recently, there was a 430 > > Scuderia parked next to a 365 GTC/4. > > While the Scuderia was being mobbed by 14 yr olds, I pulled > > my pants down and attempted to mount the Azzuro > California C4 > > with polished Borranis. > > It's definitely not a case of the "good old days"...as I > > wasn't even born when the C4 came out. > > LS > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----From: Dan Warlick > > <edwf430 [at] att.net>To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>Cc: > > ferrari [at] ferrarilist.comSent: Monday, November 10, 2008 > > 7:55:46 PMSubject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing > Their Good Looks? > > I am inclined to agree with the author. I do think the > 360 is > > far more graceful than the 430 and I love the old stuff. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry B" > > <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>To: "Daniel" > <edwf430 [at] att.net>Cc: "The > > FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>Sent: Monday, > November> 10, 2008 7:35 PMSubject: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris > Losing Their > > Good Looks? > > > > > > NYT article (sans pictures), for those who might be > interested.> November 10, 2008, 3:37 pmAre Ferraris Losing > Their Good > > Looks?By Richard Chang Gavin Green of Car magazine in Britain > > raised an issue I've thought about quite a bit lately: that > > Ferraris "aren't gorgeous anymore."Mr. Green took issue with > > the fat rear end of the new California model, but didn't stop > > there. "The 612 is fussy and ill-proportioned," he said. "The > > Enzo is more bug than bird. Even the F430 lacks the visual > > grace and profile poetry of the old F355, the last lovely > > Ferrari."Mr. Green points to its recent Formula One drivers, > > Michael Schumacher and Kimi Raikkonen, both staid > > individuals, and asks: Has Ferrari lost that innate Italian > > coolness?More likely, it has to do with aerodynamics. > And Mr. > > Green recounts a recent conversation with Luca di > > Montezemolo, president of Ferrari. "He said the styling was > > dictated by aerodynamics and the need to keep a Ferrari glued > > to the road at 180-plus," Mr. Green writes. "That's why the > > Enzo is all wedge and scoops and slats and chunky lines. That > > big fat rump of the California more bustle bum than bikini > > bottom helps aero performance, or so Luca says."It hasn't > > helped that a whole slew of beautiful vintage Ferraris were > > on the auction block this year, including Steve McQueen's > > 1963 250 GT/L Berlinetta Lusso and this 1961 250 California > > Spyder once owned by James Coburn:They don't design them like > > the 1961 Ferrari 250 California Spyder > > anymore.______________________________________________________ > >__________To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, > > please> > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/edw> f430%40att.net > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.comand F1 > > Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ > >______________________________________________________________ > >___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please > > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/las > > hdeep%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 > > Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please > > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rol > > indsay%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 > > Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/__________________________ > >______________________________________To unsubscribe or modify > > your > > ubscription options, please > > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rol > > indsay%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 > > Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/__________________________ > >______________________________________To unsubscribe or modify > > your > > ubscription options, please > > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/las > > hdeep%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 > > Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please > > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/gra > > hame%40reinthal.com.au > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 > > Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > o unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > > ttp://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/red5hilser%40aol.c om> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > nd F1 Headlines > > ttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/pokiebaron%40gmai l.com> > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > and F1 Headlines > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rolindsay%40yahoo .com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > and F1 Headlines > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/philville%40dejaz zd.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > and F1 Headlines > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier 39 Churchill Drive Elverson Pa 19520 610.525.8949 And, go to: ... www.PhilvilleUSA.com
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