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From: Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt dock.net)
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| Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:13:46 -0800 (PST) | |
Its so amazing that we talk about 180 mph as terminal speeds of the upper
end sports cars yet in another venue, the AA Fuel Dragsters - they hit that
speed at what, 200 feet out? on the way to 300 + mph. Same same for a
buncha guys at work who have been working on a Dry Lakes car - they nearly
have made into the 200 mph club!! Oh well, I like em all. Especially any
Ferrari that can get me hard jail time within 10 seconds - cool. heh heh
DOUG----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net> Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? Green recounts a recent conversation with Luca di Montezemolo, president of Ferrari. "He said the styling was dictated by aerodynamics and the need to keep a Ferrari glued to the road at 180-plus," If that's the case, then any car as ugly as the Enzo should have much higher levels of performance than it does. I think there should be a division of styling at Ferrari. 95% of owners never go anywhere near the cars limits, so the trade off of ugly for performance is a waste. I think they should divide their models into 2 groups, the really ugly ones with hyper performance for the guys who are interest in track work, and GT cars, which would focus on beauty. For the odd time a GT car is run really fast, or flat out, it's almost always in a straight line on the highway anyway. Sure, it's nice to have stability at 180 in a straight line too, but for the few times it happens, do what everyone did up until a few years ago; when you feel the front wheels life off the ground, back off a tad. :-) If you have to trade off all those potential great looks, for added down force cos you might get caught out at 180, then you're probably in over you head anyway, have no right swimming in the deep end of the pool. hee hee Just my thoughts from a guy who drives a car with a wiggly back end. :-) Ed 911SC 2008/11/11 <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
Better not tell (check 6) cLyDe. It would kill him! Yer Shitbox pal, Bubba -----Original Message----- From: Grahame Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? 308 GT4 - now you're talking! > -----Original Message----- From: LS I agree totally! GT4s do not get the respect they deserve...beautiful! ...but Jim's 308GTB is freakin' beautiful! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message-----From: LS <lashdeep> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? Most of everything new is plain ugly...only the Astons and maybe the shape of the Murci are "attractive". The 430? No thanks. The 612 and 599 are atrocious. The 997 TT? What is that thing? The new M3? Looks like a fat chick I dated for 3 days in 1992. The M6 looks like her mother. The Skyline GTR is one of the ugliest "sporty" cars I've seen in a long time. While at the Ferrari dealership recently, there was a 430 Scuderia parked next to a 365 GTC/4. While the Scuderia was being mobbed by 14 yr olds, I pulled my pants down and attempted to mount the Azzuro California C4 with polished Borranis. It's definitely not a case of the "good old days"...as I wasn't even born when the C4 came out. LS ----- Original Message ----From: Dan Warlick <edwf430 [at] att.net>To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.comSent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:55:46 PMSubject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? I am inclined to agree with the author. I do think the 360 is far more graceful than the 430 and I love the old stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry B" <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>To: "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] att.net>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:35 PMSubject: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? NYT article (sans pictures), for those who might be interested. November 10, 2008, 3:37 pmAre Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?By Richard Chang Gavin Green of Car magazine in Britain raised an issue I've thought about quite a bit lately: that Ferraris "aren't gorgeous anymore."Mr. Green took issue with the fat rear end of the new California model, but didn't stop there. "The 612 is fussy and ill-proportioned," he said. "The Enzo is more bug than bird. Even the F430 lacks the visual grace and profile poetry of the old F355, the last lovely Ferrari."Mr. Green points to its recent Formula One drivers, Michael Schumacher and Kimi Raikkonen, both staid individuals, and asks: Has Ferrari lost that innate Italian coolness?More likely, it has to do with aerodynamics. And Mr. Green recounts a recent conversation with Luca di Montezemolo, president of Ferrari. "He said the styling was dictated by aerodynamics and the need to keep a Ferrari glued to the road at 180-plus," Mr. Green writes. "That's why the Enzo is all wedge and scoops and slats and chunky lines. That big fat rump of the California — more bustle bum than bikini bottom — helps aero performance, or so Luca says."It hasn't helped that a whole slew of beautiful vintage Ferraris were on the auction block this year, including Steve McQueen's 1963 250 GT/L Berlinetta Lusso and this 1961 250 California Spyder once owned by James Coburn:They don't design them like the 1961 Ferrari 250 California Spyder anymore.______________________________________________________ __________To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, > please visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/edw f430%40att.net Sponsored by BooyahMedia.comand F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ ______________________________________________________________ ___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/las hdeep%40yahoo.com Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ ______________________________________________________________ ___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rol indsay%40yahoo.com Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/__________________________ ______________________________________To unsubscribe or modify > your ubscription options, please visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rol indsay%40yahoo.com Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/__________________________ ______________________________________To unsubscribe or modify > your ubscription options, please visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/las hdeep%40yahoo.com Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ ______________________________________________________________ ___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/gra hame%40reinthal.com.au Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ _________________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: ttp://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/red5hilser%40aol.com Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com nd F1 Headlines ttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/pokiebaron%40gmail.com Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1 Headlines http://www.F1Headlines.com/
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