Re: Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
From: Doug and Terri Anderson (dntdock.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:32:45 -0800 (PST)
Ah shucks - anything more updated than a 166 Inter is Gawd Awful Ugly. Of course flip that thing any you get shaved down to your belt line, but what the hell - that's racing. heh heh
DOUG

----- Original Message ----- From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?



  Being the hard nose all time old Ferrari enthusiast that I am, I have
  to say that I do like the new spyder.
  Phil
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: rolindsay [at] yahoo.com
  Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:05 am
  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
  To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
  Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
  > The biggest style element is that almost all new designs have
  > very tall back ends. This is the natural evolution from the
  > jelly-bean styles of thr '90s where MPG was all that mattered.
  > Even the beautiful 360 has tall hips.
  >
  > But here's the kicker; evolution creates adaptations that become
  > more elaborate with time. Then when the environment changes,
  > death and extinction follows. This leads me to wonder what the
  > next "revolution" will bring, as the tall-butt-jelly-beans
  > expire.
  >
  > Dang i'ts early for this kind of talk...
  >
  > Rick - in Las Vegas
  >
  > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: "E M" <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
  >
  > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:23:12
  > To: rolindsay<rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
  > Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
  > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
  >
  >
  > Green recounts a recent conversation with Luca di
  >  Montezemolo, president of Ferrari. "He said the styling was
  >  dictated by aerodynamics and the need to keep a Ferrari glued
  >  to the road at 180-plus,"
  >
  > If that's the case, then any car as ugly as the Enzo should have
  > much higher
  > levels of performance than it does.
  >
  > I think there should be a division of styling at Ferrari.
  > 95% of owners
  > never go anywhere near the cars limits, so the trade off of ugly for
  > performance is a waste.  I think they should divide their
  > models into 2
  > groups, the really ugly ones with hyper performance for the guys
  > who are
  > interest in track work, and GT cars, which would focus on
  > beauty.  For the
  > odd time a GT car is run really fast, or flat out, it's almost
  > always in a
  > straight line on the highway anyway.
  >
  > Sure, it's nice to have stability at 180 in a straight line too,
  > but for the
  > few times it happens, do what everyone did up until a few years
  > ago; when
  > you feel the front wheels life off the ground, back off a tad. :-
  > )  If you
  > have to trade off all those potential great looks, for added
  > down force cos
  > you might get caught out at 180, then you're probably in over
  > you head
  > anyway, have no right swimming in the deep end of the pool. hee hee
  >
  > Just my thoughts from a guy who drives a car with a wiggly back
  > end. :-)
  >
  > Ed
  > 911SC
  >
  > 2008/11/11 <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
  >
  > > Better not tell (check 6) cLyDe. It would kill him!
  > >
  > > Yer Shitbox pal, Bubba
  > >
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Grahame
  > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > 308 GT4 - now you're talking!
  > > > -----Original Message-----
  > >  From: LS
  > >
  > >  I agree totally!
  > >  GT4s do not get the respect they deserve...beautiful!
  > >  ...but Jim's 308GTB is freakin' beautiful!
  > >  Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
  > >  -----Original Message-----From: LS <lashdeep>
  > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are
  > > Ferraris
  > >  Losing Their Good Looks?
  > >
  > >  Most of everything new is plain ugly...only the Astons and
  > >  maybe the shape of the Murci are "attractive".
  > >  The 430? No thanks. The 612 and 599 are atrocious.
  > >  The 997 TT? What is that thing?
  > >  The new M3? Looks like a fat chick I dated for 3 days in
  > >  1992. The M6 looks like her mother.
  > >  The Skyline GTR is one of the ugliest "sporty" cars I've seen
  > >  in a long time.
  > >  While at the Ferrari dealership recently, there was a 430
  > >  Scuderia parked next to a 365 GTC/4.
  > >  While the Scuderia was being mobbed by 14 yr olds, I pulled
  > >  my pants down and attempted to mount the Azzuro
  > California C4
  > >  with polished Borranis.
  > >  It's definitely not a case of the "good old days"...as I
  > >  wasn't even born when the C4 came out.
  > >  LS
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >  ----- Original Message ----From: Dan Warlick
  > >  <edwf430 [at] att.net>To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>Cc:
  > >  ferrari [at] ferrarilist.comSent: Monday, November 10, 2008
  > >  7:55:46 PMSubject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing
  > Their Good Looks?
  > >  I am inclined to agree with the author. I do think the
  > 360 is
  > >  far more graceful than the 430 and I love the old stuff.
  > >  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry B"
  > >  <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>To: "Daniel"
  > <edwf430 [at] att.net>Cc: "The
  > >  FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>Sent: Monday,
  > November>  10, 2008 7:35 PMSubject: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris
  > Losing Their
  > >  Good Looks?
  > >
  > >
  > >  NYT article (sans pictures), for those who might be
  > interested.>  November 10, 2008, 3:37 pmAre Ferraris Losing
  > Their Good
  > >  Looks?By Richard Chang Gavin Green of Car magazine in Britain
  > >  raised an issue I've thought about quite a bit lately: that
  > >  Ferraris "aren't gorgeous anymore."Mr. Green took issue with
  > >  the fat rear end of the new California model, but didn't stop
  > >  there. "The 612 is fussy and ill-proportioned," he said. "The
  > >  Enzo is more bug than bird. Even the F430 lacks the visual
  > >  grace and profile poetry of the old F355, the last lovely
  > >  Ferrari."Mr. Green points to its recent Formula One drivers,
  > >  Michael Schumacher and Kimi Raikkonen, both staid
  > >  individuals, and asks: Has Ferrari lost that innate Italian
  > >  coolness?More likely, it has to do with aerodynamics.
  > And Mr.
  > >  Green recounts a recent conversation with Luca di
  > >  Montezemolo, president of Ferrari. "He said the styling was
  > >  dictated by aerodynamics and the need to keep a Ferrari glued
  > >  to the road at 180-plus," Mr. Green writes. "That's why the
  > >  Enzo is all wedge and scoops and slats and chunky lines. That
  > >  big fat rump of the California more bustle bum than bikini
  > >  bottom helps aero performance, or so Luca says."It hasn't
  > >  helped that a whole slew of beautiful vintage Ferraris were
  > >  on the auction block this year, including Steve McQueen's
  > >  1963 250 GT/L Berlinetta Lusso and this 1961 250 California
  > >  Spyder once owned by James Coburn:They don't design them like
  > >  the 1961 Ferrari 250 California Spyder
  > >  anymore.______________________________________________________
  > >__________To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, >
  > please>
  > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/edw>
  f430%40att.net
  > >  Sponsored by BooyahMedia.comand F1
  > >  Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/
  > >______________________________________________________________
  > >___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
  > >  visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/las
  > >  hdeep%40yahoo.com
  > >  Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1
  > >  Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >______________________________________________________________
  > >___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
  > >  visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rol
  > >  indsay%40yahoo.com
  > >  Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1
  > >  Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/__________________________
  > >______________________________________To unsubscribe or modify
  > > your
  > > ubscription options, please
  > >  visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rol
  > >  indsay%40yahoo.com
  > >  Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1
  > >  Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/__________________________
  > >______________________________________To unsubscribe or modify
  > > your
  > > ubscription options, please
  > >  visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/las
  > >  hdeep%40yahoo.com
  > >  Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1
  > >  Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >______________________________________________________________
  > >___To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
  > >  visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/gra
  > >  hame%40reinthal.com.au
  > >  Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com and F1
  > >  Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/
  > >
  > >_________________________________________________________________
  > > o unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
  > >
  >
  ttp://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/red5hilser%40aol.c
  om> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
  > > nd F1 Headlines
  > > ttp://www.F1Headlines.com/
  > >
  > >_________________________________________________________________
  > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
  > >
  >
  http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/pokiebaron%40gmai
  l.com>
  > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
  > > and F1 Headlines
  > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/
  > >
  > _________________________________________________________________
  > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
  >
  http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rolindsay%40yahoo
  .com
  >
  > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
  > and F1 Headlines
  > http://www.F1Headlines.com/
  > _________________________________________________________________
  > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
  >
  http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/philville%40dejaz
  zd.com
  >
  > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
  > and F1 Headlines
  > http://www.F1Headlines.com/
  Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier
  39 Churchill Drive
  Elverson Pa 19520
  610.525.8949
  And, go to: ... www.PhilvilleUSA.com



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


_________________________________________________________________
To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/dnt%40dock.net

Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com
and F1 Headlines
http://www.F1Headlines.com/


Results generated by Tiger Technologies Web hosting using MHonArc.