Re: Barstool Economics (was RE: Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? )
From: Brian E. Buxton (BrianBuxtonBuxtonMotorsports.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:47:11 -0800 (PST)
Exactly right Steve. It becomes a lifestyle and a family legacy. My ex-fiancee's sister is dating a guy right now who works at a car wash for cash and won't get a "real" job because he would lose his disability checks by drawing a paycheck. He's 29 and his parents signed him up for disability when he was 12. He has learned to not want to work or strive to better himself because he will lose his "free" money. My father has people coming to him all the time who are perfectly healthy and capable of working trying to get on disability.

For something to make you smile, look up an album (and song) by Guy Drake called Welfare Cadillac.

=)

B



Steve Jenkins wrote:

This is far from scientific, but go sit in your local Social Security office
for an hour and people-watch at who is in there to pick up benefits, or
complain about their benefits being cut, etc. I had to sit in one here for
two hours a couple weeks ago for a replacement SS card. There sure seemed
like a lot of able-bodied people in there collecting disability and
welfare...

SJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fleischer [mailto:themightytoe [at] gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:17 PM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Barstool Economics (was RE: Are Ferraris Losing Their
Good Looks? )

OK

So your lack of compassion is showing here...

No its not your fault, and maybe it wasn't Mr DD's choice to not get an education, or go to school or hone his skills... Maybe the guy just isn't equipped for doing much more than digging a ditch for a living?

It sounds like there is a feeling here that people getting help from the Government are miscreants spending on beer or committing fraud. And I am sure there are cases of that. I just can't believe that it is everyone who benefits from the system, you may believe it, but I do not.

Also I checked: Total budget for 2008 5237 Billion. Spent on welfare: ~450 Billion (8.5%)... The government spends twice that amount on health care and nearly twice that amount on pensions. So down with the sick and the old I say! They all would think my Ferrari is ugly anyhow...


Ric Rainbolt wrote:
At 05:50 PM 11/12/2008, you wrote:

I fully agree our system is not fair and it really is a form of charity
to a large extent, no question.  It seems the arguments here are based
on just the numbers, but what is missing here is any compassion for your
fellow man.  Sure I work hard to provide for my family and I worry about
their financial security and future but I also recognize that I live in
a society with other people and reading this I recall an old adage my
parents used to tell me: "the world needs ditch diggers too"...
And therein is the basis of the problem. This is a worldwide epidemic of misconception, IMHO.

Compassion for my fellow man is NOT to support someone who doesn't bother to get an education, or bother to not drink beer that costs more than his gross wages. Is it MY fault that he's a ditch digger? Perhaps I spent years honing my profitable technical skills while he skipped school and drank his way into his situation? Now I'm literally robbed to pay for his misdeeds or lack of proactive foresight.

It should for ME to decide when to allow the gift of charity to emanate from MY compassion. I do NOT want to have money taken BY FORCE by large bureaucracy and given willy-nilly to whoever makes up the best boo-hoo sob story. I've lived around and worked with MANY fully able-bodied individuals that were taking money from the system via systematic fraud (workmans comp, Medicare, etc.). Then there's the whole part about federal funding for all kinds of crap that I would NEVER EVER support if given a choice in the matter. I give many thousands to charities each year... ones of MY choosing.

There is NO charity in someone taking my money to give to someone else (and in many cases, keep some for themselves for being so righteous). That's playing shift-the-burden-of-my-guilt complex. Far too common.

RR
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