Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Weight of Modern Sports Cars

[Robert W. Garven Jr. (rgarven]

dieing breed.

isnt this part of the leather thread??

:-)


Robert W. Garven Jr.
rgarven [at] gmail.com


 "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special  
vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for  
those lucky few". Enzo Ferrari






On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:18 PM, LarryT wrote:

> I think that's a reasonable progression theory based on history -
> which is the only thing we can count on!
>
> Sadly, the people on this list and others like it are a dieing breed.
>
> back t the weight of cars for a moment - just thinnk about how heavy
> modern cars would be if we didn't have Carbon Fiber, FRP &, misc  
> plastics
> to make bumpers and other things on.
>
> Someoe mentioned the 370Z -which is the cover car for R&T - with a  
> sub-title
> of "Smaller, Lighter, FASTER"   Looks like the weight management   
> police are
> active again -
>
> Have a nice nght -
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
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>
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> To: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>; "ferrari" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com 
> >
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Weight of Modern Sports Cars
>
>
> > Nice Larry,
> >
> > 1900-1930 - The era of barely functional automobiles.  Slow and  
> > designed
> > for wagon roads.  The driver had to also be a mechanic, or at least  
> > know
> > the car inside out.
> >
> > 1930s - The era of engineering explosion.  In the '30s technology  
> > bloomed
> > and very many new ideas were tested and implemented.  Drivers still  
> > needed
> > to know their cars, and now they need to know the quirks of their  
> > specific
> > car.
> >
> > 1940s - the era of engineering standardization.  In this era, best
> > practices grew out of the engineering diversity of the '30s.  Drivers
> > began to enjoy the comfort of their cars.  Style became important.
> > Streets and highways are becoming crowded.  Most travel is still  
> > local.
> > Hot rodders emerge bringing the first motorheads to the scene.   
> > They are
> > looked down upon by "decent" society.
> >
> > 1950-1970 - The era of power, comfort and doo-dads.  Technology  
> > advanced
> > with automatic transmissions, air-conditioning and 8-track stereo.   
> > Cars
> > are BIG and with the advent of the Interstate system, Americans hit  
> > the
> > roads.  Highway speeds increased and distance-traveled increased.   
> > More
> > people died in highway accidents.  Most drivers didn't need to know  
> > much
> > about their cars beyond monitoring the fuel gauge and infrequent oil
> > changes.  Bald tires are recognized as bad things.  Muscle car owners
> > follow in the footsteps of the hot-rodders of the '50s.  They are  
> > only
> > marginally better accepted as decent citizens.
> >
> > 1970-80 - The era of DOT, EPA and OPEC.  The federal government  
> > finds it
> > important to legislate automobiles. This action when combined with  
> > oil
> > embargos, causes cars to be emasculated and former muscle cars to be
> > castrated.  Japanese cars flood onto the scene to take advantage of  
> > the
> > economy car market.  European cars come onto the scene to replace the
> > muscle cars.  Knowledge of the mechanical workings of an automobile  
> > is
> > equated to red necks and people who can't afford modern cars.
> >
> > 1980s - The era of totally useless American cars.  Japanese cars  
> > flood the
> > market with reliable if boring transportation.  Driver knowledge of  
> > the
> > workings of the car diminishes even further.
> >
> > 1990s - The re-emergence of EPA and DOT control.  Cars, while  
> > growing in
> > power again, are legislated to be "clean" and "safe".  Its now  
> > illegal to
> > touch any system on the car that might affect emissions.  In  
> > essence, that
> > includes everything but the cigarette lighter.  Mechanical  
> > knowledge drops
> > even further.
> >
> > 2000s - The era of safety and MPG.  The cigarette lighter is now also
> > (mostly) illegal.  Federal mandates push fleet mileage requirements  
> > higher
> > and higher causing automakers to introduce at least one or two
> > ultra-milers with the styling elements of Jelly Belly.  Some muscle  
> > car
> > clones reemerge but are heavy versions of their earlier selves.   
> > Owners
> > all-but totally ignorant of the mechanical attributes of the car -  
> > just as
> > the automakers want it.
> >
> > 2010s - The automobile, technologically unknown to the owner, with  
> > power
> > plant compartments sealed from owners and non-dealer shops and  
> > illegal to
> > force open.  Control of operation mostly in the hands of onboard  
> > computers
> > synchronized and in communication with highway management computers.
> > Illegal, if not impossible to attempt to operate the car under manual
> > control.
> >
> > Well, its just my opinion, I guess..
> >
> > Rick ;-)
>
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