Re: HOnda quits F-1 Next year
From: JAshburne (JAshburneaol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:18:00 -0800 (PST)
 
Well Formula 1 racing dates only back to 1950, so IF Indy was a "Grand  Prix" 
and IF the Maserati was on Goodyear tires, it WAS NOT a Formula 1  race!  HA!
 
Now here are some snippets of Goodyear's history from their own  website:
 
 
1964 Craig Breedlove set speed record at Bonneville Salt  Flats, 526.28 mph 
in a jet-powered Spirit of America equipped with Goodyear  tires....Goodyear 
entered international  racing field for first time....New Italian plant 
started. 
1965 Craig Breedlove broke speed record at Bonneville Salt  Flats at a speed 
of 600.601 mph on Goodyear tires....In less than two years after entering  
international racing competition, Goodyear won the 24 Hours of Le Mans,  
France.. 
1967.A.J. Foyt rode to victory at the Indianapolis 500, and  Dennis Hulme won 
the 1967 World Driving  Championship, both on Goodyear tires 
So while this doesn't answer the question definitely of what year  did a 
Goodyear shod car first win a Formula 1 race, this seems to place it  sometime 
between 1964 and 1967, so maybe my guess of 1967 wasn't so far off  after all. 
What does everyone else  have? 
John
 
In a message dated 12/5/2008 2:02:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
red5hilser [at] aol.com writes:

Yea, it  was. Alberto Ascari and Ferrari were the only ones to give Indy a 
shot. I  think it was in 1952. Either he didn't qualify or was out early in the 
race. A  maserati won in 1939, driven (i Think) by Maury Rose. It was called 
the Boyle  Secial and had shamrocks painted on the sides. Green on a 1930's 
American race  car? Unheard of!

Does anyone remember 'The Race of Two Worlds" held at  Monza in 1957? It used 
the infamous banking that we saw in the film Grand  Prix. Jimmy Bryan won 
that one. Moss in a Maserati, the D Type Jaguars and a  lone Ferrari were also 
entered. Luigi Musso was the fastest of the Europeans,  but the car DNF'd. Moss 
took a wicked spin on the banking when a tyre blew,  but as unhurt. I've seen 
films of it. Frightening!

Yer pal, Ferrari  Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: LS 



Wasn't  Indy on the F1 calender from 1950-60? So it was in the  30s?




From: "red5hilser [at] aol.com"  <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: lashdeep [at] yahoo.com;  Ferrari [at] Ferrarilist.com
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:51:03  PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year

Not even close.  Try a few decades earlier. Time for cLyDe to 'Check Six' and 
cme up with the  right answer!

Yer pal,. Shitbox Bubba


-----Original  Message-----
From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
To:  red5hilser [at] aol.com
Cc: The FerrariList  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:17 am
Subject:  Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year



It's got to be an Indy  500 race when it was on the F1 schedule...

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rom: "red5hilser [at] aol.com" <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
o: LS  <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
c: The FerrariList  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
ent: Friday, December 5, 2008 11:59:23  AM
ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year
Early a few  years!  --  Bubba

----Original Message-----
rom:  Itsme
ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next  year

1960???


If an American is to amount to anything  he must rely upon himself, and not 
upon 
he State; he must take pride in  his own work, instead of sitting idle to 
envy 
he luck of others.”  
heodore Roosevelt


n a message dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A
M.  Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser 
rites:
After following F1 Racing  since 1956, there's one thing that I've learned. 
Teams 
ome, and teams go,  and the world (and racing) still goes on.
Anyone remember Lancia, Maserati,  Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the rest. It'll be 
usiness as usual next year,  with or without Honda. The only constant is our 
eloved Ferrari!
BTW, I  won a trivia contest one time. The question was: What year did 
Goodyear  
in it's first Fi victory? Although being 'under the weather' that night,  (it 
ust have been something I drank) I correctly named the year, race and  
driver. 
o Figure. . . 
Anybody out there got the answer(s)?
Yer  trivia buff, Ferrari Bubba

----Original Message-----
rom: Rick  
ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year

I guess the real  question is; Does this mean that they are just not running 
a 
orks' team or  does it mean that they will also no l
onger be an engine 
pplier?   Or both?
ick
-- On Fri, 12/5/08, Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>  wrote:
From: Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
ubject: [Ferrari] HOnda  quits F-1 Next y
ar
o: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
c:  "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
ate: Friday, December 5,  2008, 8:47  AM
ttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With-
Former-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea
der_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar
keting_Director_
1:18pm  UK, Friday December 05, 2008 
onda says it will not be competing in next  year's
ormula One championship - but what does this mean for  motor
acing?
s Formula One on the decline?Are more teams going  to
ollow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by more
ponsorship  deals?
Read our replay of our lunchtime webchat. We were joined  by
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n a message  dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser  
rites:
After following F1 Racing since 1956, there's one thing that  I've learned. 
Teams 
ome, and teams go, and the world (and racing) still  goes on.
Anyone remember Lancia, Maserati, Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the  rest. It'll be 
usiness as usual next year, with or without Honda. The only  constant is our 
eloved Ferrari!
BTW, I won a trivia contest one time.  The question was: What year did 
Goodyear 
in it's first Fi victory?  Although being 'under the weather' that night, (it 
ust have been something  I drank) I correctly named the year, race and 
driver. 
o Figure. . .  
Anybody out there got the answer(s)?
Yer trivia buff, Ferrari  Bubba

----Original Message-----
rom: Rick 
ubject: Re: [Ferrari]  HOnda quits F-1 Next year

I guess the real question is; Does this mean  that they are just not running 
a 
orks' team or does it mean that they will  also no longer be an engine 
pplier?  Or both?
ick
-- On Fri,  12/5/08, Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> wrote:
From: Rich  <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
ubject: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next  year
o: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
c: "The FerrariList"  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
ate: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:47  AM
ttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With-
Former-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea
der_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar
keting_Director_
1:
18pm  UK, Friday December 05, 2008 
onda s
ys it will not be competing in next  year's
ormula One championship - but what does this mean for  motor
acing?
s Formula One on the decline?Are more teams going  to
ollow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by more
ponsorship  deals?
Read our replay of our lunchtime webchat. We were joined  by
listair Watkins, former Marketing Director of Honda F1 and
Director  of sports marketing agency i-nfluence and James
oberts, news editor from F1  Racing  Magazine.
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