Ferrari Mailing List: Re: HOnda quits F-1 Next year

[red5hilser (red5hilser]

I just said that a Maerati won the 1939 Indy race, not that it counted as a 
Grand Prix race back then. HA! to you too, my friend. Back in the day, starting 
with the first race in 1911, many different Euoropean cars were entered at the 
500 with varied sucess, none of which were awarded points tward the WMC. I 
might not have been sober and lucid at all times during the 1950-'60s, but I 
faintly remember that John Cooper brought Black Jack Brahbam and his Cpooper 
over for the 1961 race. Finished 10th I believe with his little underpowered 
Climax engine. Same went for this chap Colin Chapman bringing over his Lotus 
for Jimmy Clark to drive with a V-8 Ford stuffed in it. BTW, Clark won the 1965 
race. I still have my Press Tower pass for that one. Jimmy should have won the 
'64 race too, but Parneli Jones, in J.C. Agajanian's 'ole #98 front 
engine Offy 'Calhoun' had a cracked his external oil tank and spilled enough 
oil on the track to make Clark spin, allowing Jones to claim the victory. Black 
flag for Jones? No way. You can't fight City Hall, Harlan Fengler, and the USAC 
good old boys. Colin was piffed, but you can't fight City Hall and the good ol 
boys. <g> Paul TRacy learned the same lesson years later, when he won the 500 
and Tony George and the IRL stole it away from him.

BTW, to add insult to injury, Graham Hill won the next year (1966) driving one 
of them damned little rear engined foreign cars.

Oh, and by using the Goodyear website, yo
ur guess of 1967 is in the ballpark. Not quite correct, but if you were using a 
12-gauge shotgun to hunt hamsters, you probably would have hit one. Keep 
trying, my frind, and good luck.

Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
 


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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year



 
ell Formula 1 racing dates only back to 1950, so IF Indy was a "Grand  Prix" 
nd IF the Maserati was on Goodyear tires, it WAS NOT a Formula 1  race!  HA!

ow here are some snippets of Goodyear's history from their own  website:


964 Craig Breedlove set speed record at Bonneville Salt  Flats, 526.28 mph 
n a jet-powered Spirit of America equipped with Goodyear  tires....Goodyear 
ntered international  racing field for first time....New Italian plant started. 
1965 Craig Breedlove broke speed record at Bonneville Salt  Flats at a speed 
f 600.601 mph on Goodyear tires....In less than two years after entering  
nternational racing competition, Goodyear won the 24 Hours of Le Mans,  
rance.. 
967.A.J. Foyt rode to victory at the Indianapolis 500, and  Dennis Hulme won 
he 1967 World Driving  Championship, both on Goodyear tires 
o while this doesn't answer the question definitely of what year  did a 
oodyear shod car first win a Formula 1 race, this seems to place it  sometime 
etween 1964 and 1967, so maybe my guess of 1967 wasn't so far off  after all. 
hat does everyone else  have? 
ohn

n a message dated 12/5/2008 2:02:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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d5hilser [at] aol.com writes:
Yea, it  was. Alberto Ascari and Ferrari were the only ones to give Indy a 
hot. I  think it was in 1952. Either he didn't qualify or was out early in the 
ace. A  maserati won in 1939, driven (i Think) by Maury Rose. It was called 
he Boyle  Secial and had shamrocks painted on the sides. Green on a 1930's 
merican race  car? Unheard of!
Does anyone remember 'The Race of Two Worlds" held at  Monza in 1957? It used 
he infamous banking that we saw in the film Grand  Prix. Jimmy Bryan won 
hat one. Moss in a Maserati, the D Type Jaguars and a  lone Ferrari were also 
ntered. Luigi Musso was the fastest of the Europeans,  but the car DNF'd. Moss 
ook a wicked spin on the banking when a tyre blew,  but as unhurt. I've seen 
ilms of it. Frightening!
Yer pal, Ferrari  Bubba

----Original Message-----
rom: LS 

Wasn't  Indy on the F1 calender from 1950-60? So it was in the  30s?


rom: "red5hilser [at] aol.com"  <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
o: lashdeep [at] yahoo.com;  Ferrari [at] Ferrarilist.com
ent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:51:03  PM
ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year
Not even close.  Try a few decades earlier. Time for cLyDe to 'Check Six' and 
me up with the  right answer!
Yer pal,. Shitbox Bubba

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rom: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
o:  red5hilser [at] aol.com
c: The FerrariList  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
ent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:17 am
ubject:  Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year

It's got to be an Indy  500 race20when it was on the F1 schedule...
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om: "red5hilser [at] aol.com" <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
: LS  <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
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nt: Friday, December 5, 2008 11:59:23  AM
bject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year
arly a few  years!  --  Bubba
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om:  Itsme
bject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next  year
1960???

f an American is to amount to anything  he must rely upon himself, and not 
pon 
e State; he must take pride in  his own work, instead of sitting idle to 
nvy 
e luck of others.”  
eodore Roosevelt

 a message dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A
.  Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser 
ites:
fter following F1 Racing  since 1956, there's one thing that I've learned. 
eams 
me, and teams go,  and the world (and racing) still goes on.
nyone remember Lancia, Maserati,  Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the rest. It'll be 
siness as usual next year,  with or without Honda. The only constant is our 
loved Ferrari!
TW, I  won a trivia contest one time. The question was: What year did 
oodyear  
n it's first Fi victory? Although being 'under the weather' that night,  (it 
st have been something I drank) I correctly named the year, race and  
river. 
 Figure. . . 
nybody out there got the answer(s)?
er  trivia buff, Ferrari Bubba
----Original Message-----
om: Rick  
bject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year
I guess the real  question is; Does this mean that they are just not running=2
0
 
rks' team or  does it mean that they will also no l
nger be an engine 
plier?   Or both?
ck
- On Fri, 12/5/08, Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>  wrote:
rom: Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
bject: [Ferrari] HOnda  quits F-1 Next y
r
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te: Friday, December 5,  2008, 8:47  AM
tp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With-
ormer-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea
er_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar
eting_Director_
:18pm  UK, Friday December 05, 2008 
nda says it will not be competing in next  year's
rmula One championship - but what does this mean for  motor
cing?
 Formula One on the decline?Are more teams going  to
llow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by more
onsorship  deals?
ead our replay of our lunchtime webchat. We were joined  by
istair Watkins, former Marketing Director of Honda F1 and
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berts, news editor from F1  Racing  Magazine.
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 a message  dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser  
ites:
fter following F1 Racing since 1956, there's one thing that  I've learned. 
eams 
me, and teams go, and the world (and racing) still  goes on.
nyone remember Lancia, Maserati, Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the  rest. It'll be 
siness as usual next year, with or without Honda. The only  constant is our 
loved Ferrari!
TW, I won a trivia contest one time.  The question was: What year did 
oodyear 
n it's first Fi victory?  Although being 'under the weather' that night, (it 
st have been something  I drank) I correctly named the year, race and 
river. 
 Figure. . .  
nybody out there got the answer(s)?
er trivia buff, Ferrari  Bubba
----Original Message-----
om: Rick 
bject: Re: [Ferrari]  HOnda quits F-1 Next year
I guess the real question is; Does this mean  that they are just not running 
 
rks' team or does it mean that they will  also no longer be an engine 
plier?  Or both?
ck
- On Fri,  12/5/08, Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> wrote:
rom: Rich  <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
bject: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next  year
: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
: "The FerrariList"  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
te: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:47  AM
tp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With-
ormer-Marketing-Director/Article/2008121151732
94?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea
er_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar
eting_Director_
:
8pm  UK, Friday December 05, 2008 
nda s
s it will not be competing in next  year's
rmula One championship - but what does this mean for  motor
cing?
 Formula One on the decline?Are more teams going  to
llow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by more
onsorship  deals?
ead our replay of our lunchtime webchat. We were joined  by
istair Watkins, former Marketing Director of Honda F1 and
irector  of sports marketing agency i-nfluence and James
berts, news editor from F1  Racing  Magazine.
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