Ferrari Mailing List: Re: HOnda quits F-1 Next year

[red5hilser (red5hilser]

Ya did good, my friend. I only knew it because I read it in R&T after it 
happened and for some reason it stuck in what's left of my mind. These days I 
couldn't tell you the difference between a tribe of pigmys and a womens' track 
team, but that stuck for some reason.

Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: john
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year


Nice story Bubba. I just wwnt by the words you used in your question.

Anyway it's all from the golden age of formula 1 when I was a lad and could 
only read about it in Road and Track. The first F1 race I attended was Watkins 
Glen in 73, when Francois Cevert was killed during practice.

For the record my guess of 1967 was unaided by google or research. The correct 
answer of 1965 is horseshoe and open choke shotgun close!

Back to my beer!

See ya

John 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: red5hilser [at] aol.com
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:01:42 -0500
To: <JAshburne [at] aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year


I just said that a Maerati won the 1939 Indy race, not that it counted as a 
Grand Prix race back then. HA! to you too, my friend. Back in the day, starting 
with the first race in 1911, many different Euoropean cars were entered at the 
500 with varied sucess, none of which were awarded points tward the WMC. I 
might not have been sober and lucid at all times during the 1950-'60s, but I 
faintly remember that John Cooper brought Black Jack Brahbam
 and his Cpooper over for the 1961 race. Finished 10th I believe with his 
little underpowered Climax engine. Same went for this chap Colin Chapman 
bringing over his Lotus for Jimmy Clark to drive with a V-8 Ford stuffed in it. 
BTW, Clark won the 1965 race. I still have my Press Tower pass for that 
one. Jimmy should have won the '64 race too, but Parneli Jones, in J.C. 
Agajanian's 'ole #98 front engine Offy 'Calhoun' had a cracked his external oil 
tank and spilled enough oil on the track to make Clark spin, allowing Jones to 
claim the victory. Black flag for Jones? No way. You can't fight City Hall, 
Harlan Fengler, and the USAC good old boys. Colin was piffed, but you can't 
fight City Hall and the good ol boys. <g> Paul TRacy learned the same lesson 
years later, when he won the 500 and Tony George and the IRL stole it away from 
him.

BTW, to add insult to injury, Graham Hill won the next year (1966) driving one 
of them damned little rear engined foreign cars.

Oh, and by using the Go odyear website, your guess of 1967 is in the ballpark. 
Not quite correct, but if you were using a 12-gauge shotgun to hunt hamsters, 
you probably would have hit one. Keep trying, my frind, and good luck.

Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
 


-----Original Message-
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year



  Well Formula 1 racing dates only back to 1950, so IF Indy was a "Grand  Prix" 
 and IF the Maserati was on Goodyear tires, it WAS NOT a Formula 1  
race!  HA!   Now here are some snippets of Goodyear's history from their own  
website:     1964 Craig Breedlove set speed record at Bonneville Salt  Flats, 
526.28 mph  in a jet-powered Spirit of America equipped with Goodyear  
tires....Goodyear  entered international  racing field for first time....New 
Italian plant started.   1965 Craig Breedlove broke speed record at Bonneville 
Salt  Flats at a speed  of 600.601 mph on Goodyear tires....In less than two 
years after entering   international racing competition, Goodyear won the 24 
Hours of Le Mans,   France..  1967.A.J. Foyt rode to victory at the 
Indianapolis 500, and  Dennis Hulme won  the 1967 World Driving  Championship, 
both on Goodyear tires  So while this doesn't answer the question definitely of 
what year =2 0did a  Goodyear shod car first win a Formula 1 race, this seems 
to place it  sometime  between 1964 and 1967, so maybe my guess of 1967 wasn't 
so far off  after all.  What does everyone else  have?  John   In a message 
dated 12/5/2008 2:02:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  red5hilser [at] aol.com 
writes:  Yea, it  was. Alberto Ascari and Ferrari were the only ones to give 
Indy a  shot. I  think it was in 1952. Either he didn't qualify or was out 
early in the  race. A  maserati won in 1939, driven (i Think) by Maury Rose. It 
was called  the Boyle  Secial and had shamrocks painted on the sides. Green on 
a 1930's  American race  car? Unheard of!  Does anyone remember 'The Race of 
Two Worlds"20held at  Monza in 1957? It used  the infamous banking that we saw 
in the film Grand  Prix. Jimmy Bryan won  that one. Moss in a Maserati, the D 
Type Jaguars and a  lone Ferrari were also  entered. Luigi Musso was the 
fastest of the Europeans,  but the car DNF'd. Moss  took a wicked spin on the 
banking when a tyre blew,  but as unhurt. I've seen  films of it. Frightening!  
Yer pal, Ferrari  Bubba   -----Original Message----- From: LS     Wasn't  Indy 
on the F1 calender from 1950-60? So it was in the  30s?     From: "red5hilser 
[at] aol.com"  <red5hilser [at] aol.com> To: lashdeep [at] yahoo.com;  Ferrari 
[at] Ferrarilist.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:51:03  PM Subject: Re: 
[Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year  Not even close.  Try a few decades 
earlier. Time for cLyDe to 'Check Six' and  cme up with the  right answer!  Yer 
pal,. Shitbox Bubba   -----Original  Message----- From: LS <lashdeep [at] 
yahoo.com> To:  red5hilser [at] aol.com Cc: The FerrariList  <ferrari [at] 
ferrarilist.com> Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:17 am Subject:  Re: [Ferrari] HOnda 
quits F-1 Next year    It's got to be an Indy  500 race when it was on the F1 
schedule...  ----- Original20Message  ---- rom: "red5hilser [at] aol.com" 
<red5hilser [at] aol.com> o: LS  <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> c: The FerrariList  
<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ent: Friday, December 5, 2008 11:59:23  AM 
ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year Early a few  years!  --  Bubba  
----Original Message----- rom:  Itsme ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 
Next  year =2
01960???   If an American is to amount to anything  he must rely upon himself, 
and not  upon  he State; he must take pride in  his own work, instead of 
sitting idle to  envy  0Ahe luck of others.”   heodore Roosevelt   n a message 
dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A M.  Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser  rites: After 
following F1 Racing  since 1956, there's one thing that I've learned.  Teams  
ome, and teams go,  and the world (and racing) still goes on. Anyone remember 
Lancia, Maserati,  Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the rest. It'll be  usiness as usual 
next year,  with or without Honda. The only constant is our  eloved Ferrari! 
BTW, I  won a trivia contest one time. The question was: What year did  
Goodyear   in it's first Fi victory? Although being 'under the weather' that 
night,  (it  ust have been something I drank) I correctly named the year, race 
and   driver.  o Figure. . .  Anybody out there got the answer(s)? Yer  trivia 
buff, Ferrari Bubba  ----Original Message----- rom: Rick   ubject: Re: 
[Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year  I guess the real  question is; Does this 
mean that they are just not running  a  orks' team or  does it mean that they 
will also no l onger be an engine  pplier?   Or both? ick -- On Fri, 12/5/08, 
Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>  wrote: From: Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> 
ubject: [Ferrari] HOnda  quits F-1 Next y ar o: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] 
yahoo.com> c:  "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrari list.com> ate: Friday, 
December 5,  2008
, 8:47  AM 
ttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With- 
Former-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea 
der_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar 
keting_Director_ 1:18pm  UK, Friday December 05, 2008  onda says it will not be 
competing in next  year's ormula One championship - but what does this mean for 
 motor acing? s Formula One on the decline?Are more teams going  to ollow suit? 
Would the Honda team have been saved by more ponsorship  deals? Read our replay 
of our lunchtime webchat. We were joined  by listair Watkins, former Marketing 
Director of Honda F1 and Director  of sports marketing agency i-nfluence and 
James oberts, news editor from F1  Racing  Magazine. 
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12/5/2008 8:43:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser   rites: After 
following F1 Racing since 1956, there's one thing
 that  I've learned.  Teams  ome, and teams go, and the world (and racing) 
still  goes on. Anyone remember Lancia, Maserati, Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the  
rest. It'll be  usiness as usual next year, with or without Honda. The only  
constant is our  eloved Ferrari! BTW, I won a trivia contest one time.  The 
question was: What year did  Goodyear  in it's first Fi victory?  Although 
being 'under the weather' that night, (it  ust have been something  I drank) I 
correctly named the year, race and  driver.  o Figure. . .   Anybody out there 
got the answer(s)? Yer trivia buff, Ferrari  Bubba  ----Original Message----- 
rom: Rick  ubject: Re: [Ferrari]  HOnda quits F-1 Next year  I guess the real 
question is; Does this mean  that they are just not running  a  orks' team or 
does it mean that they will  also no longer be an engine  pplier?  Or both? ick 
-- On Fri,  12/5/08, Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> wrote: From: Rich  
<Rich355 [at] comcast.net> ubject: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next  year o: 
"rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> c: "The FerrariList"  <ferrari [at] 
ferrarilist.com> ate: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:47  AM 
ttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With- 
Former-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea 
der_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar 
keting_Director_ 1: 18pm  UK, Friday December 05, 2008  onda s ys it will not 
be competing in next  year's ormula One championship - but what does this mean 
for  motor acing? s Formula 
One on the decline?Are more teams going  to ollow suit? Would the Honda team 
have been saved by more ponsorship  deals? Read our replay of our lunchtime 
webchat. We were joined  by listair Watkins, former Marketing Director of Honda 
F1 and Director  of sports marketing agency i-nfluence and James oberts, news 
editor from F1  Racing  Magazine. 
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