Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Require Driving School? Yes or No?

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   I am sorry, I missed your point?
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
   Date: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:39 am
   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Require Driving School? Yes or No?
   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > OK
   >
   > I have been reading this thread for a bit and as an HPDE
   > instructor, I
   > will put it out there to my Ferrari list pals who I think are a
   > great
   > and entertaining group...  Would I want to share track time
   > with you
   > guys on a road course?   Hell no, I value my life too much.
   >
   > Bunch of back seat drivers if I ever saw them...  I would
   > be genuinely
   > surprised to see more than 10% of this list be able to execute a
   > heel
   > and toe down shift consistently or to run a single lap in any
   > car, let
   > alone their prized Ferrari at 10/10ths.  Seriously your a
   > bunch of
   > waxers when it comes to real driving, the PCA and BMW CCA guys
   > would eat
   > your lunches no question.   No question the rides look
   > and sound better,
   > but don't fool yourselves into thinking the 370Z auto rev
   > matching was
   > not built specifically for you just like those F1 paddles in 80%
   > of new
   > Ferrari's.
   >
   > As for the ZR1, yeah its a monster of a car, and not for the
   > inexperienced, but in the hands of a bad driver, a Jetta is
   > dangerous.
   > The problem is not the horsepower though, that's like saying the
   > problem
   > with guns is all the bullets... (hope this stays on topic after
   > that)...  I am a firm believer that in the US of A, driver
   > training is
   > abysmal, no one should learn anything more than the rules for
   > dodge ball
   > and the proper form of a sit up from their gym teacher...
   > We Americans
   > start out with terrible training and then spend the rest of our
   > lives
   > adding bad habits to that poor training.  I know many
   > adults who could
   > not manage to parallel park to save their lives.  Take the
   > bad training
   > and habits and throw in a total lack of regard for your fellow
   > man and
   > you have a bit of a dangerous situation.   Before you
   > point fingers at
   > all those kids who are getting bad training... What did you do
   > to
   > improve the same bad training you received?  I learned to
   > drive in the
   > UK and even that was not sufficient training in my
   > opinion...  I pro
   > actively went out and attended many driving schools and car
   > control
   > clinics right after I got out of college.
   >
   > I think that driver training is changing, here in IL (state of
   > corruption that it is) driver training is probably the most
   > strict in
   > the country, they just bumped new driver seat time requirements
   > from 50
   > to 100 hours of logged driving with a licensed driver (parent)
   > or
   > instructor before a license is granted.  Kids here need to
   > keep a log
   > book (like a pilot in training).  I think that is a step in
   > the right
   > direction.  Next step is mandatory in car testing for the
   > first few
   > years of driving, and retesting at regular intervals (like every
   > 5
   > years).  (Hey that would create jobs too...)  No
   > demonstration of safe
   > skills, no license.  Plain and simple.
   >
   > No matter how much training you give, there will still be
   > someone who's
   > skills are exceeded by their egos and our insurance rates will
   > go up...
   > I don't blame them anymore than I blame people in Texas for
   > letting
   > black mold grow in their duct works for raising my insurance
   > rates...
   > Rick go check your ducts man!
   >
   > :)
   >
   >
   > Larry B wrote:
   > > You mean if I hand my wife the keys to my Ferrari she might
   > not come back alive? Hmmm.  For as long as I've owned it
   > she hasn't planted her rear in the driver's seat, but this gives
   > me reason to rethink that position.
   > >
   > > Okay, just kidding.  Probably.
   > >
   > > LarryDate: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:14:12 -0800From:
   > cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> . . . . Do we really toss the wife
   > the keys to our Ferraris and hope they come back alive?
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