Re: Require Driving School? Yes or No?
From: Ferrarisimo [at] Comcast.net (Ferrarisimocomcast.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:33:33 -0800 (PST)
Something about kids keeping track of their logs, guns, ducks, and moldy texans???

Scottie

On Feb 13, 2009, at 10:44 AM, philville dejazzd.com wrote:


 I am sorry, I missed your point?
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:39 am
 Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Require Driving School? Yes or No?
 To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
 Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
OK

I have been reading this thread for a bit and as an HPDE
instructor, I
will put it out there to my Ferrari list pals who I think are a
great
and entertaining group...  Would I want to share track time
with you
guys on a road course?   Hell no, I value my life too much.

Bunch of back seat drivers if I ever saw them...  I would
be genuinely
surprised to see more than 10% of this list be able to execute a
heel
and toe down shift consistently or to run a single lap in any
car, let
alone their prized Ferrari at 10/10ths.  Seriously your a
bunch of
waxers when it comes to real driving, the PCA and BMW CCA guys
would eat
your lunches no question.   No question the rides look
and sound better,
but don't fool yourselves into thinking the 370Z auto rev
matching was
not built specifically for you just like those F1 paddles in 80%
of new
Ferrari's.

As for the ZR1, yeah its a monster of a car, and not for the
inexperienced, but in the hands of a bad driver, a Jetta is
dangerous.
The problem is not the horsepower though, that's like saying the
problem
with guns is all the bullets... (hope this stays on topic after
that)...  I am a firm believer that in the US of A, driver
training is
abysmal, no one should learn anything more than the rules for
dodge ball
and the proper form of a sit up from their gym teacher...
We Americans
start out with terrible training and then spend the rest of our
lives
adding bad habits to that poor training.  I know many
adults who could
not manage to parallel park to save their lives.  Take the
bad training
and habits and throw in a total lack of regard for your fellow
man and
you have a bit of a dangerous situation.   Before you
point fingers at
all those kids who are getting bad training... What did you do
to
improve the same bad training you received?  I learned to
drive in the
UK and even that was not sufficient training in my
opinion...  I pro
actively went out and attended many driving schools and car
control
clinics right after I got out of college.

I think that driver training is changing, here in IL (state of
corruption that it is) driver training is probably the most
strict in
the country, they just bumped new driver seat time requirements
from 50
to 100 hours of logged driving with a licensed driver (parent)
or
instructor before a license is granted.  Kids here need to
keep a log
book (like a pilot in training).  I think that is a step in
the right
direction.  Next step is mandatory in car testing for the
first few
years of driving, and retesting at regular intervals (like every
5
years).  (Hey that would create jobs too...)  No
demonstration of safe
skills, no license.  Plain and simple.

No matter how much training you give, there will still be
someone who's
skills are exceeded by their egos and our insurance rates will
go up...
I don't blame them anymore than I blame people in Texas for
letting
black mold grow in their duct works for raising my insurance
rates...
Rick go check your ducts man!

:)


Larry B wrote:
You mean if I hand my wife the keys to my Ferrari she might
not come back alive? Hmmm.  For as long as I've owned it
she hasn't planted her rear in the driver's seat, but this gives
me reason to rethink that position.

Okay, just kidding.  Probably.

LarryDate: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:14:12 -0800From:
cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> . . . . Do we really toss the wife
the keys to our Ferraris and hope they come back alive?
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