Ferrari Mailing List: Re: F450 Spy Shots

[LS (lashdeep]

Rick, turbo is the "old school" way of doing things. That was for when 
manufacturers couldn't or didn't know how to make an engine that made big BHP 
(over 400) and still get good mpg.

Those days are gone or at least should be. There are manufacturers out there 
that are accomplishing all of this without the added complication, weight, cost 
and heat of forced induction.

Forced induction is a band aid for a core engineering deficiency whether it be 
poor fuel economy or poor power production. The basic engine design needs to be 
addressed.

It's 2009...we now have light, powerful engines that get great fuel economy 
normally aspirated. Forced induction is a sell out...it would be sad if Ferrari 
resorted to this. They should be the ultimate in engineering exercise.

LS



----- Original Message ----
From: Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:03:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] F450 Spy Shots


This move would not surprise me.  With the green-green-green attitude of the 
regulators, the way to stay low-emissions but get power when you need it is by 
forced injection.  And with a turbo, you basically have an economical, normally 
asperated engine at low engine speeds.


--- On Tue, 3/31/09, E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] F450 Spy Shots
> To: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 11:41 AM
> I read some story that Ferrari was tinkering with smaller
> displacement and
> turbo charging for a number of it's future cars.  The
> story also mentioned
> that the Enzo replacement will possibly have few cylinders
> and turbos.
> 
> Any news if the 450 will be offered with a row your own
> trans ?
> 
> Ed
> 911SC
> 
> 2009/3/31 Steve Jenkins <steve [at] stevejenkins.com>
> 
> > I've heard one story that says it will have a a
> 4.5L engine V8, capable of
> > producing 500HP, and be lighter than the F430 at
> around 1350kg, and another
> > story that it will be a 4.3L V8, with 490HP.
> >
> > SJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:04 AM
> > To: Steve Jenkins
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] F450 Spy Shots
> >
> >
> > Nice, thanks. Any tech specs?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Steve Jenkins <steve [at] stevejenkins.com>
> > To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:57:19 AM
> > Subject: [Ferrari] F450 Spy Shots
> >
> > The last one is a computer rendering.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmmmm... I guess, as always, I wanna see it in person
> before making any
> > decisions.
> >
> >
> >
> > SJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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