Ferrari Mailing List: Re: F450 Spy Shots

[LS (lashdeep]

"Not sure we can dismiss turbo/supercharging so easily for the high strung
exotics just yet."

And, even more importantly, the fact that it remains illustrates a crucial 
point.

Engineering decisions are all made as a result of other factors. These may be 
financial constraints, public perception and marque pride amongst others. 
Ferrari is never going to admit that OHV can be made superior to OHC. 

Until this element is removed, we'll never know what's really possible from car 
manufacturers.

LS



----- Original Message ----
From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] F450 Spy Shots

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:54 PM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Rick, turbo is the "old school" way of doing things. That was for when
> manufacturers couldn't or didn't know how to make an engine that made big
> BHP (over 400) and still get good mpg.
>
> Those days are gone or at least should be. There are manufacturers out
> there that are accomplishing all of this without the added complication,
> weight, cost and heat of forced induction.
>
> Forced induction is a band aid for a core engineering deficiency whether it
> be poor fuel economy or poor power production. The basic engine design needs
> to be addressed.
>
> It's 2009...we now have light, powerful engines that get great fuel economy
> normally aspirated. Forced induction is a sell out...it would be sad if
> Ferrari resorted to this. They should be the ultimate in engineering
> exercise.
>
> LS


Curious, how heavy is the F40 motor compared to other motors we've discussed
so far?

BTW, you can get all the horsepower you want from any displacement motor you
want naturally aspirated....but it will cost you both torque and
tractability.

I like the formula of big displacement motor a la Z06 vette to accomplish
these goals but any Ferrari motor is going to weigh more than that even with
less displacement, because Ferrari will never make an OHV design as opposed
to a DOHC.

Maybe instead of an Enzo 6.0 liter they could make something about 5.0
liters that has a ton of power and torque, and lighter. It's been 13 years
since the F512M, so I'm sure they could make something a lot stronger than
436 hp/363 lb-ft, but could it be on the same order of supercars today?

Not sure we can dismiss turbo/supercharging so easily for the high strung
exotics just yet.

FG
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