Ferrari Mailing List: Re: More power little motors

[Jeff Greenfield (coyote]

The Alfa V6 was (and is) a very nice engine, unfortunately the 164 however,
is a lousy automobile. Although nice when everything is working as it should
(which isn't often), they are a major PITA to work on and keep going. The 4
cam version as used in the LS is truly amazing, however it is virtually
impossible to keep the cams in time, as the belt tension needs to be reset
every 10,000 miles if you want to keep the rear-most cam from jumping a
tooth or two, which makes the idle real crappy.

Resetting the cam timing on the transverse V6 is not fun, and especially so
on the 4 cam version. 

But the 164 owners (ok one in particular) not only help keep me from
starving, but allow me to eat quite well :-)

And, don't even get me started on parts availability (or lack thereof),
sigh.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Manzonelli [mailto:mmanzo [at] sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:07 AM
To: Jeff Greenfield
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] More power little motors

I agree.....I had two 164 one "S" model and one "L" model.....Of all the
cars I owned I believe these engines were the best of all.....




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From: Mauricio Mesa <mesa_mauricio [at] yahoo.com>
To: Manzo <mmanzo [at] sbcglobal.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:30:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] More power little motors


The only engine/transmission that I believe would be a good fit for any of
the entry level exotics (i.e. Ferrari 308, 308 GT4 and Lamborghini Urraco,
Jalpa) is the Alfa Romeo 164 series of engines.  They have a similar layout,
are beautiful and provide similar performance.  While I would not rush out
to do this conversion, they have been installed in Lancia Stratos
reproductions and would be sensible alternative to keeping a Ferrari or
Lamborghini on the road if there were no engines/transmissions available for
these.

I had a 164 and I loved that engine and transmission, a real delight to
drive.  I think these were fantastic V6 engines.  


      
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