Ferrari Mailing List: Re: NFC Say goodbye to your SUV's : BO just madethem extinct

[Michael James (cavallino_rapante]

I'm not following your logic here - either fuel economy is important, or it 
isn't.  You can't tell me that it just isn't a strong factor in the buying 
public's decision process.  Last time I checked, blowing through $80 per week 
to keep a daily-driver on the highway was uncomfortable for the average, 
Middle-Class consumer - those memories are still vivid.  Also, I don't hear 
much about how having to stop for gasoline fill-ups every 300 miles was such a 
thrilling, rewarding experience that people wanted to spend much more of their 
free-time engaged in such an activity.
 
Furthermore, you're tremendously short-sighted if you think gasoline prices 
will stay where they are for much longer - profits for the Oil companies were 
MUCH higher when gas was $4 a gallon, and there are many market factors at-work 
that will invite such price hikes in the near future.  A resurgence in the 
global economy (boosting China's demand) and a return to speculative trading in 
the Oil Futures markets virtually guarantees that gasoline will be getting 
more-expensive in the foreseeable future.  If the past couple of years have 
taught us anything, its that the Oil Economy doesn't always track basic 
supply/demand indicators exactly.  Coupled with continuing uncertainty in the 
Middle East and no new investment initiatives in refining capability, and I'm 
not betting on the renewal of the SUV Era.  Sorry, that dog won't hunt no more.
 
M

--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:


From: Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC Say goodbye to your SUV's : BO just madethem extinct
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:15 AM


It's obvious that you are not in the car business, because you
are out of touch with current reality.  Your mindset was correct
when gas was $4, but not now.

The public is fickle, and it can certainly shift back the other way
on a moment's notice.  But, currently, the gas guzzler is king
in the marketplace.  Tomorrow the Priuses may start selling
again, but not today.

What is bizarre is that most people seem to bury their collective
heads in the sand and fail to see that some of the worst offenders
are from Japan.  Have you any real world experience with fuel
mileage in a Toyota Tundra?  Or a Nissan Armada?  Not even
close to the mileage in an equivalent GM product.

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] 
yahoo.com
> wrote:

> Sales of ALL cars are way down, but a used Honda/Toyota has higher re-sale
> value than any SUV right now.  I dare you to find anyone in the market for a
> new Hummer compared to the folks interested in a good used Prius.  Do you
> believe the price of gas will remain below $3 once the economy rebounds?  I
> don't.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Jim Conforti <lndshrk [at] xmission.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jim Conforti <lndshrk [at] xmission.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC Say goodbye to your SUV's : BO just madethem
> extinct
> To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 12:34 AM
>
>
> At 10:24 PM 5/19/2009, Michael James wrote:
> >Am I missing something here?  The 'Big Three' is now the 'Big 1.2',
> >Crysler/Chevy lots are chock-full of Trucks/SUVs that are NOT
> >moving, thousands of dealerships are closing, and makers of small,
> >fuel-efficient vehicles are experiencing growth and expanding
> >market-share.....you can't be implying that the market hasn't
> >already spoken....
>
> I suggest you try an experiment..
>
> Go try and trade in a "fuel efficient" vehicle.
>
> See what you get for it.
>
> You'll get less than a year ago, because the market for
> fuel-efficient vehicles has dropped
> with the price of fuel.
>
> It's called "the free market" or "cause and effect"
>
> Jim
>
> PS: Don't believe me?  Sales of Prius/etc are WAAAAY down.
>
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