Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Breaking news... FISI to Ferrari

[clyderomero (clyderomero]

Listen F1 is just the space race on 4 wheels
Look how we beat the Soviets
It came down to cubic dollars
The more money you have 
The less mistakes you make and you get there first
There are some exceptions(Toyota)
There arogance has stood in the way of progress
By the way has anyone seen the pics of the Lexus Super car in this months Car 
and Driver
My god what a butt ugly car and if they think there going to sell it for the 
asking price the are nuts
This will be the 21st century NSX and we all know how that went
You fiqured Lexus would have learned from Toyota with the shit box GTR!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] me.com>

Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:23:18 
To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Breaking news...  FISI to Ferrari


Oh I agee - personally I would go further: safety regs excepted I  
would just pick one parameter like a limit on liters of fuel and let  
them run one cylinder or seventeen, open or closed bodywork and so on.  
Early NASCAR was fun because they raced STOCK cars (kinda) Oldsmobiles  
were really Oldsmobiles and so on. Who cares if generic car A beats  
generic car B because they had more shims in the springs on the R hand  
rear.

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On Sep 3, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Stephen Sherman <sherman [at] wildblue.net>  
wrote:

> What I believe Rick (not speaking for Rick) is trying to say 'Get  
> the best drivers AND put them in the best cars, not limited
> by artificial limits ie say we have 3 litre limit (ok - we do have  
> to have some limit) but the manufactures can build 3, 4 ~16  
> cylindars, active suspension or not, aero dynamics to win the race.
>
> I remember when Ferrari came out with paddle shifters, at a time  
> when Mansel could not get his engine to the end of the race.  
> Demostrating my lack of vision I said ' To finish 1st, first you  
> have to finish', what I did not realize at the time this would  
> evolve to  ending missed shifts and over reving the engine.
>
> Now you can buy street cars with active suspension and paddle  
> shifters. But F1 has banned active suspension and paddle shifters  
> were going to be eliminated a long with other drivers aids..
>
> Stephen
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] me.com>
> To: "Stephen Sherman" <sherman [at] wildblue.net>
> Cc: "ken rentiers" <rentiers [at] mail.com>; "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] 
> ferrarilist.com 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Breaking news... FISI to Ferrari
>
>
>> So Rick you don't get thrill up your leg when the Number 6 car  
>> passes  the Number 12 car ?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Stephen Sherman <sherman [at] wildblue.net>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have to agree with Rick.
>>> Technology is what seperates F1 from the rest (I Run Last).
>>> Stephen
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rick Moseley" <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
>>> To: "Stephen" <sherman [at] wildblue.net>
>>> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Breaking news... FISI to Ferrari
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It is what Fisi has always wanted.  Up until Spa I would agree   
>>>>> that FI as
>>>>> a
>>>> perennial out of the points runner would have seen little effect  
>>>> from
>>>> losing
>>>> him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think this year has really brought home what a difference "the  
>>>> car"
>>>> makes.
>>>> Last year you could easily have put Rubens and Jenson in the list  
>>>> of
>>>> "perennial out of the points runner".   I think we are seeing  
>>>> that  all the
>>>> drivers are very close and the product they sit in can make or   
>>>> break them
>>>> (apply the converse to Ferrari and McLaren during the first part  
>>>> of  the
>>>> season).
>>>>
>>>> And although I have my favorites, I HATE the idea of a Driver's   
>>>> Series. F
>>>> the drivers.  I want to see technology in F1 and the recent  
>>>> trends  are
>>>> pushing it towards the boredom that was CART and is IRL and  
>>>> NASCRAP.
>>>> Sorry,
>>>> I'm not fooled by the different colored decals.
>>>>
>>>> Trim back the rules to displacement and wheel base, dump the  
>>>> budget cuts,
>>>> release the hounds!!!
>>>> <soap box mode off>
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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