Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Breaking news... FISI to Ferrari

[LarryT (l02turner]

Hi Gang -
   I generally agree with few limits on F1 and LM Prototypes (the top of 
the sport), especially as relates to engine type & size, wheelbase, etc. 
The only things I like to see limited are the electronic aids even if they 
are cheap and available to all teams.  Things like traction control and 
launch control reduce the skill the drivers need to control the car - for 
instance, with traction control many corners are taken with foot to the 
floor while the software applies brakes to the wheels that start to break 
loose(I'm sure it's more complicated than that) - same with launch control - 
foot to the floor until the light turns green then release a button.    I 
don't call that ultimate driving skill.

   I won't say I'm against  paddle shifts - but if you watch a video from 
the pre-paddle days of a top flight F1 car going around Monaco or Spa on a 
high speed run all the while steering with one hand and shifting with the 
other and you might see why I prefer manual shifts.  But for road cars 
paddle shifts are great IMHO.

   I guess I'd have to say I'm "for" no mechanical limits and "against" no 
software  limits.  Also, the software enhancements are easily outwitted by 
good injun-ears.

Fire away!  Larry "Living in the Past" T is ready!  ;-)

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From: "Stephen Sherman" <sherman [at] wildblue.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:13 PM
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Breaking news...  FISI to Ferrari

> What I believe Rick (not speaking for Rick) is trying to say 'Get the best
> drivers AND put them in the best cars, not limited
> by artificial limits ie say we have 3 litre limit (ok - we do have to have
> some limit) but the manufactures can build 3, 4 ~16 cylindars, active
> suspension or not, aero dynamics to win the race.
>
> I remember when Ferrari came out with paddle shifters, at a time when 
> Mansel
> could not get his engine to the end of the race. Demostrating my lack of
> vision I said ' To finish 1st, first you have to finish', what I did not
> realize at the time this would evolve to  ending missed shifts and over
> reving the engine.
>
> Now you can buy street cars with active suspension and paddle shifters. 
> But
> F1 has banned active suspension and paddle shifters were going to be
> eliminated a long with other drivers aids..
>
> Stephen
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] me.com>
> To: "Stephen Sherman" <sherman [at] wildblue.net>
> Cc: "ken rentiers" <rentiers [at] mail.com>; "The FerrariList"
> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Breaking news... FISI to Ferrari
>
>
> > So Rick you don't get thrill up your leg when the Number 6 car passes 
> > the
> > Number 12 car ?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Stephen Sherman <sherman [at] wildblue.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have to agree with Rick.
> > > Technology is what seperates F1 from the rest (I Run Last).
> > > Stephen
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rick Moseley" <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
> > > To: "Stephen" <sherman [at] wildblue.net>
> > > Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Breaking news... FISI to Ferrari
> > >
> > >
> > > > > It is what Fisi has always wanted.  Up until Spa I would agree  that 
> > > > > FI
> > > > > as
> > > > > a
> > > > perennial out of the points runner would have seen little effect from
> > > > losing
> > > > him.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think this year has really brought home what a difference "the car"
> > > > makes.
> > > > Last year you could easily have put Rubens and Jenson in the list of
> > > > "perennial out of the points runner".   I think we are seeing that  all
> > > > the
> > > > drivers are very close and the product they sit in can make or  break
> > > > them
> > > > (apply the converse to Ferrari and McLaren during the first part of 
> > > > the
> > > > season).
> > > >
> > > > And although I have my favorites, I HATE the idea of a Driver's 
> > > > Series.
> > > > F
> > > > the drivers.  I want to see technology in F1 and the recent trends  are
> > > > pushing it towards the boredom that was CART and is IRL and NASCRAP.
> > > > Sorry,
> > > > I'm not fooled by the different colored decals.
> > > >
> > > > Trim back the rules to displacement and wheel base, dump the budget
> > > > cuts,
> > > > release the hounds!!!
> > > > <soap box mode off>
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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