Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Info for 308/328

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

But you have to get into a 365 GT4 for your feet to be in front of you...

On 10/27/09, jimshadow [at] verizon.net <jimshadow [at] verizon.net> wrote:
> The nice thing about a GT4 is that there is NO 'monkey driving
> position'!!!!!!!!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:35:48
> To: JIM<jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
> Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>; <ktroy35402 [at] aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Info for 308/328
>
> I am 6'3" and can drive the 328 comfortably. I don't think I'd choose it
> for cross country, but I have driven one for a full day's mountain drive
> and enjoyed it a lot. You do need the monkey position, and a lot of it
> depends on whether your personal body tends to be more torso or more
> leg, so I would try to find one to drive for a longer time than the
> typical 20-minute test drive and see how you feel. Also if you are
> interested in track events, try to bring a helmet to see if you can wear
> that in the car (unless GTS, but in some events you are speed limited if
> driving open-topped).
>
> While every Ferrari has its issues, I think the consensus here is that
> the 328 is probably the best sorted Ferrari ever straight from the
> factory. You might talk to someone at a dealer in the parts counter
> because as with all cars, Ferrari made running changes through the life
> of the 328 and the parts books will tell you at what serial # certain
> updates happened.
>
> For your re-sale comment, I think the ones that have been for sale for a
> long time are from the same people whose house is not selling. Lots of
> owners cannot accept the significant economic shift we have experienced
> and if they can't accept that the car is not worth what it was 2-3 years
> ago, they will have it for a while. The other reason is that when money
> gets tight, owners start deferring maintenance, and a savvy shopper will
> avoid a car that has been neglected for a while, even if the miles are
> low.
>
> If you want a really nicely sorted driver, contact Robert Rehkopf on
> this list. His may not be as cosmetically perfect as some, but he has
> taken excellent mechanical care of the car, and having driven it, I can
> tell you that it is a solid performer. It's much cheaper to get a nose
> re-sprayed than to go through the mechanical issues like Mike James
> detailed yesterday on his 308.
>
> -- charles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rick Baumgartner [mailto:rickwr250 [at] hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:38 AM
> To: Charles Perry
> Cc: ktroy35402 [at] aol.com; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Info for 308/328
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm looking for a 328 and wondering if there are any negatives or common
> problems with that model to look out for? Also I'm 6'1" with long legs
> and hear the leg room is brutal in these cars. Any tall guys out there
> with a 328 that can comment.
>
> Appreciate your help and time.
>
> cheers!
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>> From: clyderomero [at] att.net
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:44:50 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Info for 308/328
>> CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com; KTroy35402 [at] aol.com
>> To: rickwr250 [at] hotmail.com
>>
>> I agree here as well, a car closer to a service point is a great
> bargining tool.
>> and service records are a must
>> clyde
>> -------------- Original message from "Charles Perry"
>> <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>: --------------
>>
>>
>> > Being 12 years and 4 cars into this game, I can say that Britt's
>> > advice is absolutely the most important. I can't remember which
>> > Lister told me the same thing back in 96 when I started shopping for
>
>> > a TR, but it has been the one point I've never forgotten and for
>> > which I have been the most grateful.
>> >
>> > I was lucky enough to find a mechanic (and Lister) who is a
>> > talented, honest mechanic, is reasonably priced, and is willing to
>> > both give advice and pick up the pieces if I want to try something
>> > myself and get in over my head. That is what made it possible for me
>
>> > to buy my TR (at a time when the sale price was 150% of my annual
>> > income) and add to my collection over the years.
>> >
>> > My other suggestion regards service histories. My own preference is
>> > to find a car that is due for a major, use it as a negotiating
>> > point, and then buy the car and have your own mechanic do the
>> > service. You will certainly have more spending on the "while we're
>> > in there" front, but you will also have your guy being responsible
>> > for the work and you will have the work done at the quality level
>> > you ask for, rather than the "all I need is the receipt for the new
>> > buyer" level that otherwise occurs.
>> >
>> > Good luck,
>> >
>> > -- charles
>> >
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>> >
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Britt2Asa [at] aol.com [mailto:Britt2Asa [at] aol.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:04 AM
>> > To: Charles Perry
>> > Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Info for 308/328
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Find your mechanic first. Find someone you can trust and work with
>> > (unless you are doing everything yourself). You can get the costs
>> > from him/her.
>> > Suggest you use the same person for your PPI even if you have to fly
>
>> > them somewhere and pay for an overnight.
>> >
>> > Good luck
>> > Britt
>> >
>> > Ok,
>> >
>> > So I've been on this damn list for 10 years now. Finished undergrad,
>
>> > grad school, law school. I'm positioned, following approval of my
>> > physical, to be commissioned into the Army JAG corps. I'll be
>> > stationed at Ft. Drum, NY. Alright, so that is pretty good.
>> >
>> > After watching enough Top Gear with my wife, she is of the
>> > understanding that I should have a fun car. I agree with her. USAA
>> > gave me a nice commissioning loan at 2.9%, and quite frankly, I
>> > think it is time to live the dream.
>> >
>> > Ok, so I have to convince the wife of the F-Car. She knows of my
>> > addiction, and I think she has come to accept it, after spending 7
>> > years of my life with her. But she has this pesky MBA, and she want
>> > numbers.
>> >
>> > So I am interested in average cost per year, cost of 3.25k, 7.5k,
>> > 15k, and 30k services, depreciation, and other funky stuff that
>> > might come up.
>> >
>> > Also, a Clyde price.
>> >
>> > Now I start train, presumably, in Feb. I finish in July. I know the
>> > search should take longer than 8 months, so I don't mind being in
>> > OBC while looking.
>> >
>> > What say you, F-list?
>> >
>> > John
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