Re: Info for 308/328
From: Grande Land (grandelandgmail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:56:23 -0700 (PDT)
Rick - I'm also 6'4 and from experience can say on average Ferrari's are not
made for people over 6 feet tall.  In the Testarossa the dash is so low you
have to drive with your knees out and your head cocked sideways.  I couldn't
even fit in the cockpit of a 360 it was so small.  Through all my searching
Jim's probably right that the 328 is going to be our best beat.  Stuck with
driving a 20 plus year old car is our only hope, either that or switch to a
911.  I can't put the seat all the way back and still touch the pedals in a
911.  Rick - even though we have the same passion for the cars as everyone
else we have to leave them for the short knockers.

GL



On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:34 PM, <jimshadow [at] verizon.net> wrote:

> The nice thing about a GT4 is that there is NO 'monkey driving
> position'!!!!!!!!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:35:48
> To: JIM<jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
> Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>; <ktroy35402 [at] aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Info for 308/328
>
> I am 6'3" and can drive the 328 comfortably. I don't think I'd choose it
> for cross country, but I have driven one for a full day's mountain drive
> and enjoyed it a lot. You do need the monkey position, and a lot of it
> depends on whether your personal body tends to be more torso or more
> leg, so I would try to find one to drive for a longer time than the
> typical 20-minute test drive and see how you feel. Also if you are
> interested in track events, try to bring a helmet to see if you can wear
> that in the car (unless GTS, but in some events you are speed limited if
> driving open-topped).
>
> While every Ferrari has its issues, I think the consensus here is that
> the 328 is probably the best sorted Ferrari ever straight from the
> factory. You might talk to someone at a dealer in the parts counter
> because as with all cars, Ferrari made running changes through the life
> of the 328 and the parts books will tell you at what serial # certain
> updates happened.
>
> For your re-sale comment, I think the ones that have been for sale for a
> long time are from the same people whose house is not selling. Lots of
> owners cannot accept the significant economic shift we have experienced
> and if they can't accept that the car is not worth what it was 2-3 years
> ago, they will have it for a while. The other reason is that when money
> gets tight, owners start deferring maintenance, and a savvy shopper will
> avoid a car that has been neglected for a while, even if the miles are
> low.
>
> If you want a really nicely sorted driver, contact Robert Rehkopf on
> this list. His may not be as cosmetically perfect as some, but he has
> taken excellent mechanical care of the car, and having driven it, I can
> tell you that it is a solid performer. It's much cheaper to get a nose
> re-sprayed than to go through the mechanical issues like Mike James
> detailed yesterday on his 308.
>
> -- charles
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rick Baumgartner [mailto:rickwr250 [at] hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:38 AM
> To: Charles Perry
> Cc: ktroy35402 [at] aol.com; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Info for 308/328
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm looking for a 328 and wondering if there are any negatives or common
> problems with that model to look out for? Also I'm 6'1" with long legs
> and hear the leg room is brutal in these cars. Any tall guys out there
> with a 328 that can comment.
>
> Appreciate your help and time.
>
> cheers!
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> > From: clyderomero [at] att.net
> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:44:50 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Info for 308/328
> > CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com; KTroy35402 [at] aol.com
> > To: rickwr250 [at] hotmail.com
> >
> > I agree here as well, a car closer to a service point is a great
> bargining tool.
> > and service records are a must
> > clyde
> > -------------- Original message from "Charles Perry"
> > <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>: --------------
> >
> >
> > > Being 12 years and 4 cars into this game, I can say that Britt's
> > > advice is absolutely the most important. I can't remember which
> > > Lister told me the same thing back in 96 when I started shopping for
>
> > > a TR, but it has been the one point I've never forgotten and for
> > > which I have been the most grateful.
> > >
> > > I was lucky enough to find a mechanic (and Lister) who is a
> > > talented, honest mechanic, is reasonably priced, and is willing to
> > > both give advice and pick up the pieces if I want to try something
> > > myself and get in over my head. That is what made it possible for me
>
> > > to buy my TR (at a time when the sale price was 150% of my annual
> > > income) and add to my collection over the years.
> > >
> > > My other suggestion regards service histories. My own preference is
> > > to find a car that is due for a major, use it as a negotiating
> > > point, and then buy the car and have your own mechanic do the
> > > service. You will certainly have more spending on the "while we're
> > > in there" front, but you will also have your guy being responsible
> > > for the work and you will have the work done at the quality level
> > > you ask for, rather than the "all I need is the receipt for the new
> > > buyer" level that otherwise occurs.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > >
> > > -- charles
> > >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Britt2Asa [at] aol.com [mailto:Britt2Asa [at] aol.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:04 AM
> > > To: Charles Perry
> > > Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Info for 308/328
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Find your mechanic first. Find someone you can trust and work with
> > > (unless you are doing everything yourself). You can get the costs
> > > from him/her.
> > > Suggest you use the same person for your PPI even if you have to fly
>
> > > them somewhere and pay for an overnight.
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > Britt
> > >
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > So I've been on this damn list for 10 years now. Finished undergrad,
>
> > > grad school, law school. I'm positioned, following approval of my
> > > physical, to be commissioned into the Army JAG corps. I'll be
> > > stationed at Ft. Drum, NY. Alright, so that is pretty good.
> > >
> > > After watching enough Top Gear with my wife, she is of the
> > > understanding that I should have a fun car. I agree with her. USAA
> > > gave me a nice commissioning loan at 2.9%, and quite frankly, I
> > > think it is time to live the dream.
> > >
> > > Ok, so I have to convince the wife of the F-Car. She knows of my
> > > addiction, and I think she has come to accept it, after spending 7
> > > years of my life with her. But she has this pesky MBA, and she want
> > > numbers.
> > >
> > > So I am interested in average cost per year, cost of 3.25k, 7.5k,
> > > 15k, and 30k services, depreciation, and other funky stuff that
> > > might come up.
> > >
> > > Also, a Clyde price.
> > >
> > > Now I start train, presumably, in Feb. I finish in July. I know the
> > > search should take longer than 8 months, so I don't mind being in
> > > OBC while looking.
> > >
> > > What say you, F-list?
> > >
> > > John
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