Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Engine Rebuild III

[Michael James (cavallino_rapante]

I would agree - however, 308s being 'cheap' cars, I could very-well end up 
buying a car with a similar set of issues due to neglect, 'sitting', or abuse.  
Fixing these cars has always been expensive, and owners seem to go to great 
lengths to avoid having to pay the money necessary to get these cars properly 
serviced.  Lets face it - the reason I have a bad engine is because the 
PREVIOUS owner didn't want to fix it...but he knew it had issues when he sold 
it to me.  This overheating issue pre-dates my ownership, and if the PO had the 
stones to pull the motor and fix the problem, I wouldn't be dealing with this 
now.  It was passed-on to me, never correctly diagnosed by anyone, or excused 
as 'all 308s run alittle hot'.  
 
The cost associated with re-building an engine to factory-correct specs isn't 
the labor - roughly 100 hours.  The cost is because of the parts.  Parts prices 
are high right now, and there's no getting-away from it.  Some of the items can 
be substituted by 'aftermarket' vendors such as the piston rings and pistons - 
I have a LOT of choices there, and are cheap considering.  Things like 
bearings, cylinder liners and gaskets, however, I don't have choices.  The 
gaskets are an 'understood' thing - they don't last forever, they eventually 
leak, they need to be replaced.  The engine is completely broken-down, so its a 
great time to do it all and do it correctly...the future will be interesting.
 
M

--- On Fri, 11/27/09, Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] me.com> wrote:


From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] me.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:20 AM


Cheaper to buy another 308 than buy all those parts.

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On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:15 PM, clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net wrote:

> Buy a short block
> That shit is toast
> You will be throwing good money plus many hours down the drain
>
> Clyde
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net>
> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:57:17
> To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>
> Which oil did you use?
>
> Michael James wrote:
>
>> My mechanic, David Feinberg, believes my choice in oil coupled with
>> the heat did some serious damage - the piston rings scoured the
>> cylinder liners, and vice-versa when the oil 'broke-down" from
>> high-heat, and the bearings in the motor are all SHOT.  The Cams and
>> Crankshaft were spared, but the bearing sets have risen in price over
>> the years....and so have cylinder liners.  I also burned-through a
>> piston.  I also have all of the engine gaskets to replace (a whole- 
>> set
>> of engine gaskets are $1,800, which include the head gaskets).  All  
>> 16
>> exhaust valves are destroyed, along with 9 intake valves.....the
>> previous valve job managed to 'nick' all of the valves and corrupt
>> their sealing properties, so my compression/leakdown numbers were
>> horrible across the board.  I suppose I should be lucky that the  
>> Block
>> and Heads were spared, but the internal 'bits' that have been roasted
>> over the years....crap!
>>
>> Anywho, we'll have to sit-down and review what the way-ahead looks  
>> like.
>>
>> M
>>
>> <snip>
>>
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