Re: Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR -- Prize goesto Clyde
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:51:30 -0800 (PST)
Unfortunately, IMHO, that happens with all cars to one extent or another. I'm sure Ferrari, RR, Lambo and hit harder than others but the part I dislike is not knowing the size which prevents purchasing locally. But I've had it happen with Ford and MG also.

OTOH, some parts are critical - like wheel studs/nuts/bolts - they require a certain metallugy to insure proper performance. Knowing if a Gr. 5, Gr. 8 or whatever the metric equivilent is, will work in a particular spot is difficult (impossible) to learn from factory literature.

I've always wanted to be able to buy packages of fasteners for the engine, for instance, or the bumper, interior, etc so all new fasteners are readily available in one package - but the size and strength problem is tough to get past.

Oh well --
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From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:17 PM
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "Ferrarilist" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR -- Prize goesto Clyde

Could've been worse - Ricambi America, which is usually pretty
reasonable, shows your part (146650) as $644.32 each. Ouch.

And we've all been hit by the Horse tax at least once. My 98 355 spider
came without the little toolkit that lets you mechanically raise the
roof in the event of a total hydraulic failure. I ordered all the
individual pieces of the kit, sight unseen, from Ricambi (no pictures
shown of these parts). The critical bolt that I bought for $92 turned
out to be a simple 5" long hex-headed metric threaded bolt. Could've
gotten that at any hardware store here for under $1 if I'd known that's
what it was. Horse tax.

-- charles


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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry B [mailto:larrybard [at] hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:48 PM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: Ferrarilist
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR -- Prize
goes to Clyde


Excuse me while I throw myself out my window.



Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:04:53 -0600
From: themightytoe [at] gmail.com
To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR -- Prize
goes to Clyde

Actually I found it for $32 here:  http://www.familycar.com/

And for $28 for a 512 TR...  $42 if you get the Bosch part.

http://www.familycar.com/store/?Ntt=ferrari+512%20tr+oxygen+sensor&oes=t
rue

Pays to shop around some times...

Mike


Larry B wrote:
That's even more depressing than the $80 Mike said one cost for his car.



Not only was the price $338.87 (not including tax), but they told me
that the price had just gone up to over $500 in December -- but they
were giving me the pre-increase price.  Wow, must have been my lucky
day.



Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 13:18:25 -0500
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR -- Prize
goes to Clyde
From: pokiebaron [at] gmail.com
To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com

Think I paid about $35 for a Bosch O2 for my old 911.  Bet they rounded
off the "work" to the nearest hour too.  hee hee

Ed
911SC


2009/12/3 Larry B <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>


Well, Clyde's hypothesis was correct -- it was the O2 sensor.  Of
course, having had the dealer troubleshoot the problem (downloading the
codes, etc.) and fix it, the work was far from cheap.  The price of the
Os sensor was a particular surprise -- not that I have a sense of what
they cost for "ordinary" cars.  But I believe it's a Bosch part, and
quite possibly used by other cars.  Makes me wonder if I could have
purchased one that worked, though intended for another car -- and
whether a dealer would agree to install a part they didn't provide (with
their customary parts margins).



Larry



------Original Message------
From: Larry B
To: Clyde Romero
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR
Sent: Nov 16, 2009 12:22 PM


Once again the warning light has appeared. If there isn't any noticeable
adverse effect on performance (no missing, unusual sounds, atypical
gauge readings), am I correct that (1) it's probably a loose wire and
(2) no harm will probably result from driving it (at least 10 miles to
my dealer, or another competent mechanic)?



Thanks,

Larry
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