Re: No PPI in SF anymore
From: kjtar (kjtarcox.net)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:12:07 -0800 (PST)
Oooh, ooohh, Mr. Kotter, Mr. Kotter....!!!!
:)
Tom in Tulsa
---- Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote: 
> Who is John Galt?
> 
> On 12/17/09, philville dejazzd.com <philville [at] dejazzd.com> wrote:
> >
> >    That pretty much keeps things in perspective.......
> >    ----- Original Message -----
> >    From: Misc <misc [at] 308systems.com>
> >    Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:04 pm
> >    Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI  in SF anymore
> >    To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
> >    Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >    > Yep, it is a twofold problem - too many lawyers prospecting for
> >    > work without
> >    > a real cause of action, and too many lazy ass people looking for
> >    free
> >    > money.....  put the two together and voila' - one more
> >    > chink in the armor of
> >    > society.
> >    >
> >    > Mark Lueker
> >    > 308 SYSTEMS Inc.
> >    > 970-282-7006
> >    > www.308systems.com
> >    >
> >    > -----Original Message-----
> >    > From: Scott Saidel [mailto:Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net]
> >    > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:04 AM
> >    > To: Misc
> >    > Cc: The FerrariList
> >    > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI in SF anymore
> >    >
> >    >
> >    > Ahem --- why is it that everyone gets on lawyers -- right until
> >    > some other
> >    > inconsiderate ass hurts or harms them in some way, then my
> >    > friggin phone
> >    > rings off the hook.  The problem isn't attorneys, the
> >    > problem is the "I got
> >    > hurt, so I must have won the frekin Lotto" mentality that
> >    > prevails in our
> >    > society.  I'm just doing a job and trying to make things
> >    > better for my
> >    > clients - most of whom are nice normal people that just want
> >    > their shit put
> >    > back in order after some inconsiderate ass screwed it all up for
> >    them.
> >    >
> >    > Scottie
> >    >
> >    >
> >    > On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:22 AM, Misc wrote:
> >    >
> >    > Dang.
> >    >
> >    > What ever happened to civility and love thy neighbor as thyself?
> >    >
> >    > Wishfull thinking perhaps, especially in a land overpopulated
> >    > with (1)
> >    > lawyers, and (2) those who have no shame using them.
> >    >
> >    > Mark Lueker
> >    > 308 SYSTEMS Inc.
> >    > 970-282-7006
> >    > www.308systems.com
> >    >
> >    > -----Original Message-----
> >    > From: philville dejazzd.com [mailto:philville [at] dejazzd.com]
> >    > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:26 PM
> >    > To: Mark
> >    > Cc: The FerrariList
> >    > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI in SF anymore
> >    >
> >    >
> >    >
> >    >   I remember when Mike Sheehan first wrote this piece in
> >    > "05" and how it
> >    >   made my blood boil, it does so again two years
> >    > later.......I have seen
> >    >   and, been indirectly involved with legal issues some of
> >    > which should
> >    >   have been resolved with bare knuckles behind a bar some
> >    > where.....Once  I was drawn into a law suit because of my
> >    > position with an authorized
> >    >   dealer that was truly ludicrous....a man, an existing
> >    > client of this
> >    >   same authorized dealer ( oh I forgot to mention, he was a
> >    > lawyer )
> >    >   sued because we would not  ( could not ) sell him a
> >    > Testarossa....we  were already over our allocation in
> >    > orders, need I tell you, he won,
> >    >   Ferrari made a deal with him, the particulars of which I
> >    > have never
> >    >   known and of course it cost our agency some number of
> >    > dollars plus a
> >    >   future allocation...but then he was a lawyer. It was not
> >    > long after
> >    >   that that our company stopped selling at list
> >    > price....so, he won his
> >    >   point, entitlement includes the wealthy no matter who
> >    > loses....and in
> >    >   this case the enthusiasts lost.
> >    >
> >    >   About a year later I threw in the towel....probably left
> >    > a ton of
> >    >   money on the table but I can tell you I have never
> >    > regretted a minute
> >    >   of it....you can not imagine what some Ferrari owners
> >    > will do if they
> >    >   think some one might have made a profit or god forbid
> >    > didn't get their
> >    >   entitlement.
> >    >
> >    >   When called upon to perform a PPI, my first disclaimer is
> >    > that I will
> >    >   look at a car and tell you if I would buy it....if you
> >    > need a full
> >    >   mechanical PDI I can refer you to some other masochist.
> >    >
> >    >   Mike Sheehan and Bruce Trenery got it right when they
> >    > said " we would
> >    >   not be having this conversation if the market was still
> >    > going up"
> >    >
> >    >   The world of Ferrari was a much more satisfying place to
> >    > be in and do
> >    >   business in until too much money got into the game......but
> >    >   interstingly enough, if you look at many of the people
> >    > buying those
> >    >   sub $50k cars today, I actually think they are driving,
> >    > enjoying, and
> >    >   appreciating what they have.
> >    >
> >    >   Stick around it will all start again....someday.
> >    > (Unfortunately)  Phil
> >    >
> >    >   ----- Original Message -----
> >    >   From: Paul Bennett <pbennett [at] macnet.com>
> >    >   Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:41 pm
> >    >   Subject: [Ferrari] No PPI  in SF anymore
> >    >   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
> >    >   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >    > > Why no PPI are done in SF any longer.
> >    > >
> >    > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/Sheehan-Speaks/2009/October/
> >    > >
> >    > > Good read - the story of a simple 365GTC/4 which made several
> >    > > trips to
> >    > > Hawaii, and human nature of the owner(s).   The
> >    > > maintenance which was
> >    > > performed on this car far outvalues the car but not the lawyers.
> >    > >
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