Ferrari Mailing List: Re: No PPI in SF anymore

[philville dejazzd.com (philville]

   That pretty much keeps things in perspective.......
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Misc <misc [at] 308systems.com>
   Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:04 pm
   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI  in SF anymore
   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > Yep, it is a twofold problem - too many lawyers prospecting for
   > work without
   > a real cause of action, and too many lazy ass people looking for
   free
   > money.....  put the two together and voila' - one more
   > chink in the armor of
   > society.
   >
   > Mark Lueker
   > 308 SYSTEMS Inc.
   > 970-282-7006
   > www.308systems.com
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Scott Saidel [mailto:Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net]
   > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:04 AM
   > To: Misc
   > Cc: The FerrariList
   > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI in SF anymore
   >
   >
   > Ahem --- why is it that everyone gets on lawyers -- right until
   > some other
   > inconsiderate ass hurts or harms them in some way, then my
   > friggin phone
   > rings off the hook.  The problem isn't attorneys, the
   > problem is the "I got
   > hurt, so I must have won the frekin Lotto" mentality that
   > prevails in our
   > society.  I'm just doing a job and trying to make things
   > better for my
   > clients - most of whom are nice normal people that just want
   > their shit put
   > back in order after some inconsiderate ass screwed it all up for
   them.
   >
   > Scottie
   >
   >
   > On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:22 AM, Misc wrote:
   >
   > Dang.
   >
   > What ever happened to civility and love thy neighbor as thyself?
   >
   > Wishfull thinking perhaps, especially in a land overpopulated
   > with (1)
   > lawyers, and (2) those who have no shame using them.
   >
   > Mark Lueker
   > 308 SYSTEMS Inc.
   > 970-282-7006
   > www.308systems.com
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: philville dejazzd.com [mailto:philville [at] dejazzd.com]
   > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:26 PM
   > To: Mark
   > Cc: The FerrariList
   > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI in SF anymore
   >
   >
   >
   >   I remember when Mike Sheehan first wrote this piece in
   > "05" and how it
   >   made my blood boil, it does so again two years
   > later.......I have seen
   >   and, been indirectly involved with legal issues some of
   > which should
   >   have been resolved with bare knuckles behind a bar some
   > where.....Once  I was drawn into a law suit because of my
   > position with an authorized
   >   dealer that was truly ludicrous....a man, an existing
   > client of this
   >   same authorized dealer ( oh I forgot to mention, he was a
   > lawyer )
   >   sued because we would not  ( could not ) sell him a
   > Testarossa....we  were already over our allocation in
   > orders, need I tell you, he won,
   >   Ferrari made a deal with him, the particulars of which I
   > have never
   >   known and of course it cost our agency some number of
   > dollars plus a
   >   future allocation...but then he was a lawyer. It was not
   > long after
   >   that that our company stopped selling at list
   > price....so, he won his
   >   point, entitlement includes the wealthy no matter who
   > loses....and in
   >   this case the enthusiasts lost.
   >
   >   About a year later I threw in the towel....probably left
   > a ton of
   >   money on the table but I can tell you I have never
   > regretted a minute
   >   of it....you can not imagine what some Ferrari owners
   > will do if they
   >   think some one might have made a profit or god forbid
   > didn't get their
   >   entitlement.
   >
   >   When called upon to perform a PPI, my first disclaimer is
   > that I will
   >   look at a car and tell you if I would buy it....if you
   > need a full
   >   mechanical PDI I can refer you to some other masochist.
   >
   >   Mike Sheehan and Bruce Trenery got it right when they
   > said " we would
   >   not be having this conversation if the market was still
   > going up"
   >
   >   The world of Ferrari was a much more satisfying place to
   > be in and do
   >   business in until too much money got into the game......but
   >   interstingly enough, if you look at many of the people
   > buying those
   >   sub $50k cars today, I actually think they are driving,
   > enjoying, and
   >   appreciating what they have.
   >
   >   Stick around it will all start again....someday.
   > (Unfortunately)  Phil
   >
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Paul Bennett <pbennett [at] macnet.com>
   >   Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:41 pm
   >   Subject: [Ferrari] No PPI  in SF anymore
   >   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   >   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > > Why no PPI are done in SF any longer.
   > >
   > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/Sheehan-Speaks/2009/October/
   > >
   > > Good read - the story of a simple 365GTC/4 which made several
   > > trips to
   > > Hawaii, and human nature of the owner(s).   The
   > > maintenance which was
   > > performed on this car far outvalues the car but not the lawyers.
   > >
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