Ferrari Mailing List: Re: No PPI in SF anymore

[Misc (misc]

Yep, it is a twofold problem - too many lawyers prospecting for work without
a real cause of action, and too many lazy ass people looking for free
money.....  put the two together and voila' - one more chink in the armor of
society.

Mark Lueker
308 SYSTEMS Inc.
970-282-7006
www.308systems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Saidel [mailto:Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:04 AM
To: Misc
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI in SF anymore


Ahem --- why is it that everyone gets on lawyers -- right until some other
inconsiderate ass hurts or harms them in some way, then my friggin phone
rings off the hook.  The problem isn't attorneys, the problem is the "I got
hurt, so I must have won the frekin Lotto" mentality that prevails in our
society.  I'm just doing a job and trying to make things better for my
clients - most of whom are nice normal people that just want their shit put
back in order after some inconsiderate ass screwed it all up for them.

Scottie


On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:22 AM, Misc wrote:

Dang.

What ever happened to civility and love thy neighbor as thyself?

Wishfull thinking perhaps, especially in a land overpopulated with (1)
lawyers, and (2) those who have no shame using them.

Mark Lueker
308 SYSTEMS Inc.
970-282-7006
www.308systems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: philville dejazzd.com [mailto:philville [at] dejazzd.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:26 PM
To: Mark
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI in SF anymore



  I remember when Mike Sheehan first wrote this piece in "05" and how it
  made my blood boil, it does so again two years later.......I have seen
  and, been indirectly involved with legal issues some of which should
  have been resolved with bare knuckles behind a bar some where.....Once
  I was drawn into a law suit because of my position with an authorized
  dealer that was truly ludicrous....a man, an existing client of this
  same authorized dealer ( oh I forgot to mention, he was a lawyer )
  sued because we would not  ( could not ) sell him a Testarossa....we
  were already over our allocation in orders, need I tell you, he won,
  Ferrari made a deal with him, the particulars of which I have never
  known and of course it cost our agency some number of dollars plus a
  future allocation...but then he was a lawyer. It was not long after
  that that our company stopped selling at list price....so, he won his
  point, entitlement includes the wealthy no matter who loses....and in
  this case the enthusiasts lost.

  About a year later I threw in the towel....probably left a ton of
  money on the table but I can tell you I have never regretted a minute
  of it....you can not imagine what some Ferrari owners will do if they
  think some one might have made a profit or god forbid didn't get their
  entitlement.

  When called upon to perform a PPI, my first disclaimer is that I will
  look at a car and tell you if I would buy it....if you need a full
  mechanical PDI I can refer you to some other masochist.

  Mike Sheehan and Bruce Trenery got it right when they said " we would
  not be having this conversation if the market was still going up"

  The world of Ferrari was a much more satisfying place to be in and do
  business in until too much money got into the game......but
  interstingly enough, if you look at many of the people buying those
  sub $50k cars today, I actually think they are driving, enjoying, and
  appreciating what they have.

  Stick around it will all start again....someday. (Unfortunately)
  Phil

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Paul Bennett <pbennett [at] macnet.com>
  Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:41 pm
  Subject: [Ferrari] No PPI  in SF anymore
  To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
  Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Why no PPI are done in SF any longer.
>
> http://www.sportscarmarket.com/Sheehan-Speaks/2009/October/
>
> Good read - the story of a simple 365GTC/4 which made several
> trips to
> Hawaii, and human nature of the owner(s).   The
> maintenance which was
> performed on this car far outvalues the car but not the lawyers.
>
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