Ferrari Mailing List: Re: No PPI in SF anymore

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

Who is John Galt?

On 12/17/09, philville dejazzd.com <philville [at] dejazzd.com> wrote:
>
>    That pretty much keeps things in perspective.......
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Misc <misc [at] 308systems.com>
>    Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:04 pm
>    Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI  in SF anymore
>    To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
>    Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>    > Yep, it is a twofold problem - too many lawyers prospecting for
>    > work without
>    > a real cause of action, and too many lazy ass people looking for
>    free
>    > money.....  put the two together and voila' - one more
>    > chink in the armor of
>    > society.
>    >
>    > Mark Lueker
>    > 308 SYSTEMS Inc.
>    > 970-282-7006
>    > www.308systems.com
>    >
>    > -----Original Message-----
>    > From: Scott Saidel [mailto:Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net]
>    > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:04 AM
>    > To: Misc
>    > Cc: The FerrariList
>    > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI in SF anymore
>    >
>    >
>    > Ahem --- why is it that everyone gets on lawyers -- right until
>    > some other
>    > inconsiderate ass hurts or harms them in some way, then my
>    > friggin phone
>    > rings off the hook.  The problem isn't attorneys, the
>    > problem is the "I got
>    > hurt, so I must have won the frekin Lotto" mentality that
>    > prevails in our
>    > society.  I'm just doing a job and trying to make things
>    > better for my
>    > clients - most of whom are nice normal people that just want
>    > their shit put
>    > back in order after some inconsiderate ass screwed it all up for
>    them.
>    >
>    > Scottie
>    >
>    >
>    > On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:22 AM, Misc wrote:
>    >
>    > Dang.
>    >
>    > What ever happened to civility and love thy neighbor as thyself?
>    >
>    > Wishfull thinking perhaps, especially in a land overpopulated
>    > with (1)
>    > lawyers, and (2) those who have no shame using them.
>    >
>    > Mark Lueker
>    > 308 SYSTEMS Inc.
>    > 970-282-7006
>    > www.308systems.com
>    >
>    > -----Original Message-----
>    > From: philville dejazzd.com [mailto:philville [at] dejazzd.com]
>    > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:26 PM
>    > To: Mark
>    > Cc: The FerrariList
>    > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] No PPI in SF anymore
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >   I remember when Mike Sheehan first wrote this piece in
>    > "05" and how it
>    >   made my blood boil, it does so again two years
>    > later.......I have seen
>    >   and, been indirectly involved with legal issues some of
>    > which should
>    >   have been resolved with bare knuckles behind a bar some
>    > where.....Once  I was drawn into a law suit because of my
>    > position with an authorized
>    >   dealer that was truly ludicrous....a man, an existing
>    > client of this
>    >   same authorized dealer ( oh I forgot to mention, he was a
>    > lawyer )
>    >   sued because we would not  ( could not ) sell him a
>    > Testarossa....we  were already over our allocation in
>    > orders, need I tell you, he won,
>    >   Ferrari made a deal with him, the particulars of which I
>    > have never
>    >   known and of course it cost our agency some number of
>    > dollars plus a
>    >   future allocation...but then he was a lawyer. It was not
>    > long after
>    >   that that our company stopped selling at list
>    > price....so, he won his
>    >   point, entitlement includes the wealthy no matter who
>    > loses....and in
>    >   this case the enthusiasts lost.
>    >
>    >   About a year later I threw in the towel....probably left
>    > a ton of
>    >   money on the table but I can tell you I have never
>    > regretted a minute
>    >   of it....you can not imagine what some Ferrari owners
>    > will do if they
>    >   think some one might have made a profit or god forbid
>    > didn't get their
>    >   entitlement.
>    >
>    >   When called upon to perform a PPI, my first disclaimer is
>    > that I will
>    >   look at a car and tell you if I would buy it....if you
>    > need a full
>    >   mechanical PDI I can refer you to some other masochist.
>    >
>    >   Mike Sheehan and Bruce Trenery got it right when they
>    > said " we would
>    >   not be having this conversation if the market was still
>    > going up"
>    >
>    >   The world of Ferrari was a much more satisfying place to
>    > be in and do
>    >   business in until too much money got into the game......but
>    >   interstingly enough, if you look at many of the people
>    > buying those
>    >   sub $50k cars today, I actually think they are driving,
>    > enjoying, and
>    >   appreciating what they have.
>    >
>    >   Stick around it will all start again....someday.
>    > (Unfortunately)  Phil
>    >
>    >   ----- Original Message -----
>    >   From: Paul Bennett <pbennett [at] macnet.com>
>    >   Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:41 pm
>    >   Subject: [Ferrari] No PPI  in SF anymore
>    >   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
>    >   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>    > > Why no PPI are done in SF any longer.
>    > >
>    > > http://www.sportscarmarket.com/Sheehan-Speaks/2009/October/
>    > >
>    > > Good read - the story of a simple 365GTC/4 which made several
>    > > trips to
>    > > Hawaii, and human nature of the owner(s).   The
>    > > maintenance which was
>    > > performed on this car far outvalues the car but not the lawyers.
>    > >
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